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So why post this here and not /politics?
Also, the dude is a troll, if the name didn't give it away.
Right. So he can advocate for overthrowing the government and then we you call him out on it, he can say, "Hahaha! You're an idiot for believing me!" And then he'll happily watch as others overthrow the government should it come to that.
Mate, if you think a guy who calls himself stupider is being serious, I have a bridge to sell you, it was designed by Ben Dover and Mike Ock.
From the Rhetoric of Fascism:
Stew Peters is hilarious. And it is ridiculous to believe someone that calls himself that.
But the Just Jokes thing is a trope.
It's the same thing.
You can try to sell me whatever you want, honestly. But that's fundamentally different from exercising your supposed free speech any platform to advocate the violent overthrow of the government.
Are you still salty that those damn colonists dared to violently overthrow the crown and set up their own government?
Mate, you're putting way too much effort in over a guy who calls himself stupider, and says he was born on April Fools day.
But its different when its communist, right?
Your strawman reveals that you lost the argument.
What do you mean? Ideally, I'm looking for an example...
Any communist revolution really.
Oh. You mean revolting? Not the playful rhetoric of violence leading up to it.
Yeah, no, actual revolution is never as clean as anyone wants it to be. And a bunch of innocent people that just want to live their lives get caught up in someone's bitch ass feelings being hurt.
I don't support revolution, no, communist or otherwise. But these violence adoring fascists with ironic names and quirky messages of sedition can get bent too. That's all I'm saying.
I deleted my other response to give a more detailed one now that I have the time.
This is the conservative community, and this article is about conservatism. That alone means that this article is relevant. Additionally, this article was already posted at c/politics, so there would be no point making a second post there. Third, there is sentiment amongst conservatives that democrats are authoritarians instead of republicans, and articles like these clearly show the opposite. I had a whole conversation about /u/10a about this exact sort of thing.
I'm not. Just because somebody disagrees with you doesn't mean that they are a troll. If you want to know what a troll looks like, then look no further than the guy that got banned the other day for telling people to shoot themselves for being democrats.
I just couldn't think of a name tbh. And conservatives have a habit of shooting/killing/calling for the death of political opponents (see quote above), so I had no intention of using an identifiable name.
Responding to your other comment here
"A community to discuss conservative politics and views." is the purpose of this community. This article is about conservitve politics and views. I don't know what else to tell you.
If your ideas cannot survive in the free market of ideas, then that is on you.
I'm not saying you're a troll, the jury is still out on that. But I'm saying the guy who calls himself stupider is a troll.
Ah, I see what you meant now. I'm too used to you and others calling me a troll automatically, simply because I disagree.
Regardless, from what I can tell, Stew Peters is his actual name, not a joke or troll name:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stew_Peters
https://www.havasunews.com/news/judge-rules-arizona-has-jurisdiction-to-hear-sheehy-s-defamation-lawsuit-against-national-podcaster-stew/article_b0e55b02-281c-11ee-9531-f761d2967534.html
And double regardless, shit like this within conservatism should be a giant red flag no matter what subsection of conservatism is saying it. Being "ironically" racist is racist, similarly being "ironically" fascist is still fascist. /u/PeepinGoodArgs has explained this very well.
Im still not convinved he isn't just a troll, especially with a birthday on april fools days, but that is a lot of effort.
Red flag for what exactly? We all know assholes and idiots exist.
That second link is from a court case, which presumably would have his actual name. And again, I don't care too much if he is a troll or not. The fact that conservatives embrace him at all is a problem.
For conservatism. I'm sure you've heard this quote before, "If there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, then you got a table with 11 Nazis." This guy may not be a literal Nazi, but he is waving the flag of fascism for one reason or another, and he is quite successful in the right wing sphere from what I can tell.
What exactly are you implying?
I'm saying that fascism is a problem within conservatism. And guys like this are an example.
Fascism is a problem across all over the political spectrum. Look at any tankie post if you want left wing fascism.
Yeah, because if there is one thing fascists have been historically known for, it's been pro-communism. In case it wasn't clear, that was a joke, fascists put communists to death.
Tankies are terrible, but nowhere near as big of a problem. This isn't a both sides issue.
Fascism as a term is vague and isn't limited to any one thing anymore, no one is talking about 1930s/1940s Italy anymore.
Then allow me to define it for you.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism/Common-characteristics-of-fascist-movements
Call it neo-fascism if you like, it's the same shit just in modern times.
And yet the same ideology persists.
I was talking more of "They don't want transwomen on the womens fishing team? Clearly fascist!" But even that brittanica article can't seem to come up with one good definition beyond "populist tyranny" which I guess works. And tankies definitely fall under that.
That's its own different kind of bigotry, unrelated to this particular issue.
And this is whataboutism. And again, fascists have historically killed communists, so you're getting confused here. Tankies aren't fascists, they're bootlickers and authoritarians.
Lmao by what standards is the jury still out? All that pizzaloser does is post disingenuous garbage and pretend everyone else is wrong for not treating his obvious propaganda as perfectly legitimate
Fluff or no, it's not really suited here, except for brigaders to brigade some more. And every time you do, all my posts get buried for the next few days.