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[–] hoshikarakitaridia 52 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Some of the comments here are so stupid: "either they unpedophile themselves or we just kill them for their thoughts"

Ok so let me think this through. Sexual preferences in any way or pretty normal and they don't go away. Actually if you tend to ignore them they become stronger. Also being a pedophile is not a crime currently. It's the acting on it. So what happens right now is that people bottle it up, then it gets too much and they act on it in gruesome ways, because "if I go to prison I might as well make sure it was worth it". Kids get hurt.

"But we could make thinking about it illegal!" No we can't. Say that's a law, what now? If you don't like someone, they're a "pedophile". Yay more false imprisonment. Also what happens to real pedophiles? Well they start commit more acts because theres punishment even for restraint. And the truth is a lot of ppl have pedophilic tendencies. You will not catch all of them. Things will just get worse.

So why AI? Well as the commenter above me already said, if there's no victim, there's no problems. While that doesn't make extortion legal (I mean obv. it's a different law), this could make ppl with those urges have more restraint. We could even still limit it to specific sites and make it non-shareable. We'd have more control over it.

I know ppl still want the easy solution which evidently doesn't work, but imo this is a perfect solution.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I largely agree with what you're saying and there definitely is no easy solution. I've never understood why drawings or sex dolls depicting underage people are illegal in some places, as they are victimless crimes.

The issue with aigen that differentiates it a bit from the above is the fidelity. You can tell a doll or an anime isn't real, but in a few years from now it'll b difficult to spot aigen images. This isn't unique to this scenario though, it's going to wreck havok on politics, scams, etc, but there is the potential that real CP comes out from hiding and is somewhat shielded by the aigen.

Of course this is just speculation, I hope it would go the other way around and everyone just jacks off at their computers and CP disappears completely. We need to stop focusing our attention on people with pedophila, get them mental support, and focus on sex offenders who are actually hurting people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm all for letting people have their dolls, drawings, and AI generated stuff, but yeah... it would become easy for offenders to say "Naw, I snatched that shit off of DALL-E." and walk in court, so some kind of forensic tool that can tell AI Generated Images from Real Ones would have to be made...

Actually there's a lot of reasons we'd want a tool like that that have nothing to do with hypothetical solutions to kiddie diddling.

Can you imagine how easy extortion would become if you could show an AI pictures of your neighbor next door killing some rando missing person in the area? But every new technology enables crime, until we find out what the proper safeguards are so I'm not too worried about it in the long-term.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It’s also worth remembering that to make super accurate pictures of children the AI may have been trained on illegal photos (on purpose or not)

But that’s an issue for the AI creator

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