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What do they mean by "too extreme"? Too left?
Yes, to them Lemmy is extremely left.
Reddit and other places on the internet are so far right when you say things like ‘I don’t think poor people should starve to death’ you’re looked at as a leftist.
They get shocked when you tell them capitalism is a terrible idea and their precious freedom of speech can get fucked when it’s used to protect literal Nazis.
Are you somebody who only went to the subreddits like the Donald? Reddit is basically half a step away from being the liberal version of stormfront. Now that we left the place are we just going to pretend it's everything we've always hated? Is that where we are now?
It does seem that way. I remember just a few days ago I saw a post saying that reddit would never stop praising Elon Musk
And you're pretending it's extremely left? Reddit was fairly middle road overall, but extremely polarizing in specific subs.
It's not extremely left, but it's overwhelmingly more left leaning than right leaning.
Not long ago I saw a post saying we must destroy every conservative in every way possible. Literally calling for the death of Republicans. It was highly upvoted. It did get removed eventually but still that is the general vibe of Reddit.
The slightest right-wing opinion is instantly met with 500 downvotes and 30 people responding with basically the exact same talking point against it. And no I'm not talking about the crazy bullshit like how abortion needs to be met with execution. Those people obviously rightly need to be shut the fuck down.
I'm liberal as fuck myself but even that place just annoyed this shit out of me with how it was about that.
jesse, what are you talking about?
Honestly I keep coming back to this thread cuz it's fucking hilarious. He's made up an entire Reddit in his mind and is arguing about it. Literally trying to claim that Reddit says you must protect Nazis free speech?
I don't think even /r/conservative would say that and those fucks are crazy.
I've never seen someone on Reddit or in real life suggest that capitalism is good or that freedom of speech should protect nazism hate speech. Most people would also hold that very opinion that nobody should ever starve and that they should be protected by some social economic safety net.
Are you an American? I live in a post-communist country and most of my knowledge of the US comes from various media (traditional and social, new and old), but if you are, I honestly find this fascinating, considering that free speech is even in the US constitution.
We do have laws against specifically promoting nazism, so that doesn't really apply to me, but I'd say that about 3/4 of people here consider capitalism to be if not good than acceptable.
I definitely have. It's usually when people explain capitalism the way it's sold to us (like enlightened self interest or misquoted excerpts from the wealth of nations), or with economics bs strapped to the top of it. It's always "well it's not like I want people to starve..."
But then when you remind them "hey, there's more than enough food, and the whole economic system is made up by humans" they treat you like a child for not understanding why their starting point is the only valid one
These opinions in particular are considered far left by the majority of people in the western world.
I hate everything.
Just a heads up, your post might be taken as tankie rhetoric. It’s relatively common outside of .world.
Yes thank you, I’m well aware.
One of the things I like about Lemmy is that it is extreme left (I’m excluding tankies from this). What I’d hate to see is with an increasing influx of new users it gradually shifts the Overton window of acceptable opinions.
If Lemmy ever starts to espouse capitalism I’ll know it’s over.