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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Schengen doesn’t technically mean no borders though does it? It means right to go between countries without visa/passport and without a limit on days.

Not really. That's under the roules of the single market/four freedoms/EEA. Schengen is a more or less separate thing and only governs border controls (which are generally outlawed but with exceptions). There are quite a few EEA countries that aren't in Schengen (Irelands, Romania, Bulgaria) and a few countries (Monacco, San Marino, the Vatican) that are not in the EEA but kinda participating in Schengen.

[–] thetreesaysbark 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh. I thought it was more specifically a passport thing, and that the citizens of non-schengen EEA countries would still need a passport to enter the Schengen countries, whilst members of the Schengen countries could re-enter with others forms of ID too.

I didn't realise Schengen basically outlaws borders. Thanks for educating me :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The passports/ID cards are a different thing again. They're mostly EEA, but additionally there's some recognition with some neighboring countries (the Balkans) and most Europeans can use their credit-card-sized ID card if they want to vacation in destinations like Turkey.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_identity_cards_in_the_European_Economic_Area