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The United Farm Workers on Tuesday announced its endorsement of President Joe Biden for reelection, saying that the Democrat has proven throughout his life to be an “authentic champion” for workers and their families, regardless of race or national origin.

The farm workers’ union was co-founded by Cesar Chavez, the late grandfather of Julie Chavez Rodriguez, who Biden named as his 2024 campaign manager. Her father, Arturo Rodriquez, is a past UFW president.

Julie Rodriguez and “special guests” were expected to formally announce the endorsement later Tuesday at Muranaka Farms in the city of Moorpark in southern California.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, back at ya? The IBEW praise posts are basically propaganda. They're a tiny fraction of the rail workers and weren't one of the unions that wanted to strike. They voted to approve the contract with 1 day of leave that was later forced on everyone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now go back and actually look at it. Praise posts are not relevant. Look at the actual issues and what was actually done, not what some slanted propaganda wishes you to think about it, just the details.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok. The unions wanted 15 days of sick leave, they would have been happy with the 7 most Democrats tried to give them, and Biden got them 4.

And all that ignores that the fundamental issue is that no third party negotiations can substitute for workers being able to choose whether or not to accept a contract and strike if they don't. They could have been given all 15 days (not their only ask) and it would still wouldn't make up for removing their right to refuse a contract and strike. The point of organized labor is having the power to be able to organize and deny your labor so that you can force your boss to give you what you want. They both didn't get what they want and are in a much worse position should they demand more in the future.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You ignored most of his comment.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because inane whines are not addressable en masse and must be divided into steps. Then you take the steps one at a time to achieve an actual goal. The failure to understand that does explain the complaints about Biden's performance however.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He addressed your points. You ignored them. Now you're doubling down on the condescension because you don't have an actual reply to the valid points you ignored.

Standard centrist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you think that has to do with this conversation thread?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It directly contradicts your first claim.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My first claim is: "The unions wanted 15 days of sick leave, they would have been happy with the 7 most Democrats tried to give them, and Biden got them 4."

Is the masterstroke contradiction you're speaking to that some actually got 5? Or that they can give up their vacation days to be sick? Because that's not a paid sick day.

This all continues to ignore that other people giving what they think you deserve IS NOT WORKER POWER.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And shows Biden is still fighting for them. While you are sitting idly by condemning the victory. See Four is greater than none. This is what is called progress by folks that are not so pure as you and thus understand you must lead and accept compromise rather than stamp your feet and whine while accomplishing nothing.

Getting something is 100% the actual goal and your childish tantrum would achieve nothing. There simply were not the Votes for anything else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He literally didn't need votes at all to do the right thing and let workers retain their rights.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He needed the Votes to avoid condemning a strike which is what would have been the result of not getting involved when the Economy was in need and the idiot Railways were in no way going to negotiate without his direct intervention.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is indecipherable word salad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does it feel being a sycophant of the status quo?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

How does it feel being so pure you are an impediment to progress?