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Things have gotten better and progress has been made from times past, it just seems worse now because we have more access to information. We've come far, and have further to go!

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[–] MonkCanatella 113 points 1 year ago (4 children)

the last two are easily debunked. I hate shit like this because it reinforces an idea that time = progress. There are influential and powerful people alive today who would reverse any of these trends if it meant money in their pocket.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's bewildering why they decided to restate the 1st point as the 3rd point when they could've just said the average retirement age is 10 years lower than it was 100 years ago https://www.statista.com/statistics/319983/average-retirement-age-in-the-us/

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't get why they are comparing things to the depression rather than after ww2. 50 years would be a better measure. Also retirement wise people can't always choose to so income and home ownership in retirment would be more practical.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Well that's easy, because the statistics wouldn't paint the view they're trying to convey. Saying things are better now than they were 100 years ago is as useful as saying things are better than they were 3000 years ago, aka completely useless to say since when you compare to more recent times like 40 years ago you can point to how many things have gotten objectively worse.

We've made a lot of strides on social issues, but everything else? Lmao.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah thought it didn't sound right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not about time = progress, it's about showing that there was progress even if feels like we're in a shitty downward phase currently. I don't validate the numbers, just the intention.

[–] MonkCanatella 0 points 1 year ago

It's fair to want to be optimistic and to want to fight against doomerism. I think OP was misguided at best.

To be fair, I don't think I was as clear as I could have been either. It's just that post just has smells of neoliberalism has fixed the world propaganda. These are the same kinda statistics they use to justify an immoral and unethical economic system. I think a lot of people agree and get slightly triggered seeing these same untrustworthy statistics paraded around.