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Hans Niemann was accused of cheating after he beat Norwegian grandmaster Magnus Carlsen last September.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For those who haven't seen it- even if you don't have a background in data science or chess, this report is extremely damning. He's an unapologetic, manipulative, pernicious cheater.

https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/hans-niemann-report

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's 72 pages. Are there any highlights for interested non chess fanatics?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

BBC article summarizing some of the suspicions and evidence or lack thereof.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63140246

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The main part of the report is only 20 pages. And there are a lot of figures.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not convinced by that report. Their cheating detection method is inconclusive and if Hans had the ability to perform the "best" move in every circumstance due to cheating but didn't, that to me points to it being less likely. There are a lot of statistics in that report that seem extremely circumstantial like the "plateaus" in strength rating. If he was really cheating in the tournaments, I think there would be a whole lot more evidence.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

This is "a whole lot of evidence". If he had, for example, a 10% chance to show up suspicious in any one of those charts that's one thing. But to be highlighted as the most suspicious in each is extraordinary evidence. How do you explain a greater than 10% drop in skill when a 15 minute TV delay was put in place? Or his ability to make incredibly complex, perfect moves in seconds? Or his continual, nearly unstoppable strength rating growth, you know, except for the two natural plateaus in rating where most players never continue to grow firmly in the middle of his growth curve?

If that report doesn't convince you, I doubt anything will.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente 6 points 1 year ago

If he always did what the engine tells him to do then the evidence would be overwhelming, yes. Hans is surely aware of this and avoids doing so because he wants to get away with it.