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[–] boletus 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Python is fine as a language I guess

But python programmers give it a bad name. I've never seen "well written" python code, it's always shit that's been thrown together cos it works.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

I use python exclusively when I want to quickly throw some shit together that nobody's ever gonna spend any time maintaining, so that tracks.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It badly needs strong typing. And braces.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't Python 3 have types? I've seen a few well typed codebases and it really made the code much easier to understand. Or is it just that it's not checking them strongly enough?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The type annotations are just fancy comments. They do not do anything at runtime. If you have a function that takes an int someone can still pass in a list or anything else.

[–] boletus 3 points 11 months ago

The main advantage of typing for me is static linting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

But will it run? I'm used to typescript where it's not checked at runtime but you can't "build" unsafe types I'd assume it's the same here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

no they really are just fancy comments. You can do runtime reflection on them if you wanna make something fancy like a plugin system but that's about it

[–] funkless_eck 4 points 11 months ago

just put int_ or str_ in front of your variables

problem solved 😌

[–] boletus 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think python is good as it is for what it can do, mostly because I have no reason to use it.

What we need is lua with types!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Have you heard of Typescript-to-lua? I used to do Dota modding (which is in lua) with TSTL and it works great!

You write TS code (using Typescript syntax that includes types) and it is compiled into lua.

Wonder if that could be an alternative that can work for you.

[–] boletus 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That sounds pretty neat thank you. At some point lua had an official typed extension that is no longer maintained unfortunately. Hopefully there's a stable fork one day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Oh yeah, I heard it was poorly recieved. The syntax wasn't great and generally the support sucked. AFAIK there is no progress on types for lua.