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Here is my opinion on some FOSS software. PS, I'm too old to give a shit about team mentality, I just want stuff to work. Also, my motivation for liking FOSS is not so much "free", but rather "unencumbered and unrestricted shared human technology and knowledge".
Projects I wish had an edge over commercial proprietary software:
Mobile stuff that I think is better than the counterpart, or at least so good that I don't care if there is a counterpart
Vivaldi is not 100% open source
Also i would add qBittorrent to the "great" list, and LibreCAD to the "wish it was better" list
Are there non-FOSS qBittorrent clients? I didn't mention it since it doesn't feel like a thing. I don't count MacOS software, as there you'll find commercial apps for anything you can imagine. You can probably find a paid app to do Alt+Tab correctly.
µTorrent is the most popular non-FOSS one and its infamous for shipping woth some virus/spyware years ago. Many people who dont know better still use it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_clients
FOSS (Free Open Source Software) is not only for free (non paid) programs, but also for open source programs.
Ah, good to know. I found the source code for Vivaldi, but it probably has some proprietary bits so you cannot build it yourself? I'll remove it from the list.
Im old too, my loyalty lying with FOss is that it can't get turned off or enshittified if I can fork it. Especially true with most self-hosting stuff vs cloud services. If I have no alternative to a cloud service, I do without instead.
My god this is wonderful!! Thank you so much! It looks like it's only inferior to an in-line tuner, but a little better than those clip on ones, and far better than all the apps that just play a note for you to tune by ear.
Edit: To be clear to everyone, the reason this app is so good is that it uses the mic to measure your instrument, giving you a visual representation of how far out you are.
Glad you like it! Developer (it's mostly one) deserves the thanks though.
Nah both of you deserve thanks, the app is no good if no one knows about it.
true. To be fair, it but it does some things that are unnerving: mainly, their default file manager is too basic / abstruse to use (to copy the file path you have to use a hidden shortcut, seriously?)
I agree. Nautilus could be better. But to compare it with Finder in MacOS, which straight up hides the root file system ("a feature" of course), you cannot mount sftp/ssh etc, or even let's you cut and paste files, not to mention the crappy traversal of folders. The worst part of gnome (if you can call the file manager a part of gnome) is still miles better than the commercial counterpart.
Oh yeah, I agree. I like the integration macOs has with iOS (copy-paste and stuff), but yeah I like GNOME much more
I agree with you in the mindset. "Free as in free beer" is not the important aspect for me, so much as the "free as in free speech" bit.
Funny that all the things you listed you wished were better than the competition falls almost entirely under the purview of artistic solutions. GIMP, DarkTable, Inkscape, etc. I've always heard, and I think for the most part it holds true, that FOSS software for artists is usually a worse experience because it's primarily dominated by software designed and implemented by technically minded people for technically minded people who happen to be artistic, rather than designed by artistically minded people and implemented by technically minded people.
I know it's probably an unpopular view, but I've found it to be true a lot.
That is an interesting observation, though, it is getting quite better. Blender is top tier. Gimp, Krita and InkScape are also exceptional software. Just a little bit rough around the edges, and some niche commercial applications. Very easy to be highly productive with those tools. Same with FreeCAD. But, where as Gimp, Krita and InkScape I would say are 8/10 in feature completeness, FreeCAD is more 5/10.
It's not. It's the same reason why Linux is everywhere that isn't specifically consumer oriented and front facing. Even most UIs that are designed to mimic Windows are made by tech nerds like us who just assume the users don't know what they want. But they do, they're used to what they know. That's about it. It doesn't help to say "the Windows UI is garbage anyway", it just needs to work and feel familiar. I'm sure Linux could actually slowly take off if there was significant effort put into making it as straight forward as Windows on the front end but nobody really cares about that.
It's not... unpopular? Or it's not true?
I find the assumption goes the opposite way. Linux, and FOSS as a whole, often assumes the user is knowledgeable and knows what they're doing. Proprietary software often assumes the user knows nothing and will never know anything if they don't hold your hand through the entire process and obfuscate and abstract all the decisions and work to a place you won't see it, and then puts obstacles in your way to getting to it.
FOSS says, "you wanna pop the hood? Here you go, and here are all the tools you'll need to do whatever you want," and walks off.
Proprietary software says, "are you sure you don't want to drop it off at the shop first? At least call a mechanic. Tools? No, no, you don't need tools... don't go find some, there's no need, we can just call a tow truck. No, no, the nails are supposed to be there. Yeah, I nailed the hood shut. And super glued it. Well, I didn't think you'd want in there... besides, you're not a mechanic, you've got no idea how an engine works..." and once you do get in, it's peeking over your shoulder the whole time reminding you that you really shouldn't be doing that, there are professionals for that sort of thing.
Thanks, great list!
Seconded
Solid list and arguments 👍
Didn't know about the Android ones. Thanks a bunch.
I would say that while Ardour might not have the full suite if commercial plugins available to it that you get on mac, it's a huge contender for DAW. I have produced plenty of music with it and it only gets better, the work flow is great.
That's what I wanted to mention! I just remembered 5-10 years ago, I tried getting into DAW stuff. and it just felt clunky, all of the linux ones. I definitely tried Ardour and LMMS. It didn't help that I have no musical skill, but with FL Studio, it was more obvious that I was the problem. I'll give Ardour another go some day. Thanks for reminding me.
If the last time you tried ardour was over 5 years ago then there's been a huge amount of change! The basic Interface is the same but there's loads of improvements including midi editing and time stretching, lua scripting and all kinds of other things. Ping me if you want any help using it