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Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Lower Decks | 4x04 "Something Borrowed, Something Green" (startrek.website)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Logline

Tendi is summoned back to Orion for a wedding.

Written by: Grace Parra Janney

Directed by: Bob Suarez

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Loved this one, prob my favorite of the season so far. We've had Tendi's attitude towards her own Orion heritage hanging over her character this entire show (plus a touch of SNW), so it's fun to finally dive deeper. I like how T'lyn was used here-- basically as a manifestation of Tendi's friends prying into her personal life. I wasn't expecting Mariner's main role this episode to be running gag, but hey, it worked.

The plot resolution (at least on the character arc side) wasn't super surprising, but I think it works and goes beyond where we last left the thread of Tendi's pirate identity in season 3. On DS9 it felt like she just saw herself as a trained pirate trying to be a scientist, here we have the gang affirming that the scientist is Tendi's real self. For those of you reading queer allegories onto Tendi, this episode just makes them all the deeper.

The Brutherford B-plot was incredibly silly, even as LD plots go. It's not deep, but I think it was just audaciously funny enough to work. I was initially skeptical of how they just yadda-yadda'd past the guys' conflict resolution on the holodeck. I think it works because it heightens captain Freeman's (and the audience's) disbelief that they'd expect their petty Seinfeld shenanigans would translate to any useful diplomatic measures.

Other notes:

The big guy from the B-plot friggin' threw Shaxs. might be the first time we've seen Shaxs succumb to the so-called Worf effect
T'lyn seemed to accept a group hug at the end with nary a raised eyebrow. So un-Vulcan!
Tendi's great-grandmother Astrea had the same title Mistress of the Winter Constellations, and if the bouncer's reaction is any indication it's related to D'vana being her family's prime--does that imply Astrea also had a similar path in life before ending up on the science ship D'Var?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I agree that Mariner's role in the episode was nothing but a running gag, but I have to point out what an exceptionally well written running gag it was, both in terms of her character and her character development over the course of the series.

Mariner's behavior in this episode tells us two things about her. First, she's the type of person who can get stabbed three times in a single day and (mostly) shrug it off. This isn't really a surprise. She's has always been both tough and resourceful, but she's also impulsive and emotional which too often results in her messing things up. Not this time though, and that's the second thing the episode tells us. Mariner is maturing. In past seasons a knife in her shoulder would have resulted in either a fight or a great deal of grandstanding about what a badass she is for not caring that she got stabbed, but not this time. This time Mariner knows that she's only here to support her friend.

Mariner is the running gag in this episode because now, perhaps for the first time, she can handle being the running gag. She knows that this adventure is about Tendi, and she's not going to derail it over a little thing like getting stabbed three times.