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Tech company faces negligence lawsuit after Philip Paxson died from driving off a North Carolina bridge destroyed years ago

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Doesn’t sound like google’s fault, does it?

The article even mentions that other entities are sued but oh that sweet headline.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, suing google makes as much sense as suing the car maker for not making the car fly.

[–] starman2112 -3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No??? It's perfectly reasonable to sue Google here, considering locals had been asking the company to update the map for nigh on ten years. It's negligence on their part at that point. When it's dark and raining, you can and should expect that your GPS won't lead you across a bridge that collapsed last decade.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would agree if the purpose of GPS navigation was to allow you to drive with all your windows covered. It's not. When you're driving and can't see what's in front of you (because you're blinded by something, because there's fog, because it raining hard or because Batman is throwing smoke bombs) you have to slow down appropriately or stop entirely if necessary. I can understand following GPS indications and getting stuck in some mud but not falling of a bridge. If you don't see the rode in front of you: stop.

[–] lustrum 5 points 11 months ago

There can be some culpability in Google's direction, it doesn't have to be all the blame.

It's absolutely negligent of Google to suggest that route after been informed multiple times over 10 years the bridge is collapsed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

The expectation of safety should be on the local authorities. Clearly marking that the bridge is unsafe to drive over with signs and blocking off the area. While google should have marked it as an inaccessible route, it's the local authorities that should be looking out for the safety of drivers in that situation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The bridge was broken years though, so Google should not have been using it for routes. The country is definitely at fault for not having signs up, but Google isn’t blameless in this.

[–] starman2112 -4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The company literally directed this man to his death. Why are all these commenters going to bat for a trillion dollar company that refused to pay a programmer for the ten seconds it would take to fix thee issue?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I once approached a red light and the satnav commanded me to "go straight". I almost did so, because a robot voice told me to do it. Would it have been the map's fault because it didn't know the traffic light was red? No, it would've been me, because I didn't pay **enough ** attention for a moment, following a command blindly. Drivers have to be aware of their surroundings all the time.

Here in this case there should have been a road block and hazard signs in front of it.

This all reminds me of the case where some people sued a weather app because it didn't warn them of bad weather and they completely relied on a single source of information.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Because following a GPS blindly is stupidity...yes in this case it has been out 10 years.. but what if it was out 10minutes or what if it was some other hazard in the road or some road workers fixing somthing... you should be paying attention to the road and signs....now I agree signs should have been there. But just because the satnav says okay doesn't mean driver can just blindly follow, you are a dangerous driver not aware of your surroundings and in wet conditions going too fast for the distance you can safely see.

[–] starman2112 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If it had only been out for ten minutes, then there would have been no way for Google to update the map. You realize the whole issue is that they've been contacted about it multiple times over around a decade right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That is not the point when we say it could have been out 10 min....the point is there are all sorts of unmapped obstacles in the road so saying driving off a bridge is a maps fault is showing poor driving skills.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

There were no signs or barriers, as the article mentioned, and it was a rainy night. This dude had no way of knowing or seeing something was wrong until it was too late.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is simply not the responsibility of google to prevent this tragedy. It is firstly the responsibility of every driver to make sure to be able to see where you are driving and be able to stop in time in case of unexpected. What if there was a person in his path and he could not stop in time for example?

And secondly it is the responsibility of the local authority/agency to put up signage and block the road.

Sure, i am not a fan of giant megacorps either, and it makes sense to be angry at google for not correcting the wrong map data. But strictly from a responsibility perspective, i don't think google should be held accountable here.

I also believe the thinking "directed this man to death" is too extreme. It simply is a map, with route information. There is no automatic driving or compulsion to follow its direction, the driver has to make safe decisions by himself imo.

[–] starman2112 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What if there was a person in his path and he could not stop in time for example?

Then that would be on him, because google did not receive multiple reports of a person in the middle of the road for ten goddamn years, and it's easier to spot a person in the middle of the road than it is to spot this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why do you want a already too powerfull company to be in charge of road safety?

I want the local goverment to be responsible for that.

[–] starman2112 1 points 11 months ago

I don't want them to be in charge of road safety, I want them to not suggest routes that get people killed