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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's what Session is

Which is actually on fdroid, unlike Signal who explicitly refuses to support degoogled ecosystems

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can download the APK from their website and it auto updates itself. It fetches notifications without Google required.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the point then? Is it fdroid specifically?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The point is that the community asked multiple times and they only started allowing apk downloads so people would stop asking. The signal project is open source for auditing purposes only, they have voiced their lament of forks and threatened to ban/block anyone not using an official client and refuse to make it easy to install through a package manager of the user's choosing. The version without Google cloud messaging has unreliable message delivery, even though there is unifiedpush as a standard that would allow people to register with any push notification service.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Weird as I get signal from f-droid.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

from what repo

moxie specifically made a statement that he refuses to support fdroid, it's not in the fdroid repo

https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/issues/127

don't post misinfo

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's still there. You said nothing about a specific repository. That's not "missinfo". How about you calm your rhetoric.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

because it's not in the fdroid or IzzyOnDroid repo... so explain

I showed you the creator of signal explicitly saying he refuses to support fdroid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Signal-Foss has been made redundant and has stopped development for years. They added push notifications on degoogled phones, but Signal added that themselves.

The CalyxOS repository is a smaller repo only preinstalled on CalyxOS phones and it's really rarely added outside of Calyx phones. So I'm going to take a guess you're running CalyxOS to have that on your fdroid. Which I love the CalyxOS project btw, I've used them for a number of years and did a few commits to the project.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

To be fair both are small repositories, yes, but I managed to find them both when looking for a way to install Signal via F-Droid. And no, I'm not running CalyxOS, but a different degoogled ROM :)

I might be wrong, but TwinHelix's Signal-FOSS seems to still be active, the latest update I found on their F-Droid repository and their GitHub is from yesterday: https://github.com/tw-hx/Signal-Android/releases/tag/v6.32.5.0-FOSS

But anyway, I just wanted to share these 2 sources since I saw the Signal / F-Droid discussion happening. It could be useful to someone. I don't know enough to judge what option is better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is there some signing in place to ensure it's not a malicious repo? I don't really trust unofficial F-Droid repos.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately not. I'm trusting others who know better but if you want trusted as best as it can be you're stuck with the play store sadly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If I remember correctly F-Droid supports reproducible builds, but it's a matter of the app developer supporting them. So there is light at the end of the tunnel, we're just not there yet.