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According to whom?

According to the people who coined the term. You're attempting to change the definition based on what you think looks like brigading, rather than what it is.

Brigading was coined on reddit, and it's always had a chunk of grey area. Merely seeing a post in your feed and commenting on it isn't brigading, even when you're also subscribed to the group that people are accusing others of brigading from. You have to actually start in one place and go to another for it to be brigading, and in particular it's brigading when it's encouraged for users to go to the original post and comment/harass.

Because of this, it's often quite hard to prove brigading. It's essentially impossible to differentiate between someone who found the post naturally and someone who found it via another post criticising it. That's why reddit never seemed to get it right, either they would be too permissive, or they would just ban people for having commented in the other sub regardless of how they were behaving.

Looking at your own definition, you're basically saying that federation itself is brigading. Because that's all that's happening here, we are linked with Hexbear and now we all share the same content feeds. They're brigading us, and we're brigading them, because we have been "aggressively" stitched together. Obviously, that's a silly way to look at it. You're supposed to look at individual communities or posts.

But people generally don't come from individual posts. They come from their feeds. They organically find the threads and comment in them of their own volition. There's a lot of hexbear users, so a lot of people doing this who previously weren't a part of our communities. However they don't start in one community, start in one post and then talk about another post and go raid that place together. There's no mass organisation. We're linked en mass to the same feed, but we all browse as individuals.

Granted, there may be some cases of people going from one post to another. They certainly have enough screenshot posts with enough information to find the source. This is brigading, and this can be a problem, however it is very difficult to differentiate this from legitimate organic traffic, and the legitimate traffic shouldn't be punished just to make sure you catch the brigaders.

I don’t have the opportunity to engage with any of them anymore because they brigaded the shit out of my server for 2 days and forced defederation. Now the only way for me to interact is to comment on their server, where I’m even more exposed to the numerous hateful and abusive members of their community. As you can see, the “abrasive” members of their community dictate the terms of interaction for all of their users. You cannot simply choose to interact with one member of their server, they come as a package deal. If I try to debate a point with one, I get 5 other tangential bad faith discussions to distract from the argument at hand.

I agree they can be annoying. However your mistake is that you feel like you need to reply to every one of them. It can be easy to get wound up - they certainly come out the gate that way. If they bother you so much just block and move on - before long you'll have the annoying ones out of your way.

It bears saying though that lemmy threads are generally sparse of comments as it is. You say they prevent actual discussion from happening, I query whether any discussion would have happened, with or without them.