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[–] Meowoem 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not really true though, most people are much happier in a house and have far fewer sources of stress in their life. Also high density housing is an awfull place to bring up kids, that's the exact reason London is knocking down all the old tower blocks like elephant and castle, all the studies showed it was a horrible place to live for everyone there.

I know you want this solution to work because no one likes American suburbia but it doesn't have to be a choice between two types of hell, there are actually good options like European suburbs with local shops, bus and cycle routes to pedestrianised shopping areas and lots of green spaces.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Studies actually show that medium density low rises allow for more housing and are more ecologically efficient than supposedly high-density high rises. I was surprised, but the models are irrefutable. It's mainly due to the structural footprint of large buildings.

So that's my ideal. Paris, not Manhattan. Side benefit is it just looks nicer and feels better.

[–] Meowoem 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean the rich areas of Paris? Not banlieue 93

I'm sure New York has areas similar to Montmartre where only rich people can afford to live, and areas like Seine Saint Denis where they cram all the poor people in awful environments which result in criminality and cyclical poverty

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Um...yes? Idk much about Paris geography but who gives a fuck, you understand what I'm saying.