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You're a bunch of 4Chan users cosplaying as leftists and some people don't like that.
Drats! The one true leftist has figured out our ruse! For three whole years we’ve been meticulously crafting a safe space for queer and marginalized people to speak freely without condescension and infantilization from privileged folks, all as a bit, to eventually confuse users of a FOSS Reddit alternative. You got us. Pat yourself on the back. I can’t believe you figured it out.
Wait, it was all a ruse? I have already brought the whole collection of true leftist theory (Harry Potter complete collection) all for nothing?
Yeah, 4chan, known for being vehemently opposed to racism, sexism, homophobia, ableism, and all other forms of bigotry. You can tell we're all 4chan users because of how we're literally the opposite of 4chan users in basically every way.
Right, just like how the Nazis were really socialists because they had "socialist" in the name.
Your actions speak much louder than your words, and from what I've seen, you all love to spout facist and authoritarian ideals. Funny how you all bust out the concern trolling about minority groups and bigotry when called out on your actions, yet never defend these ideals in organic conversations where the topics actually come up.
did you not see the thread on active most of yesterday where we were en masse screaming at liberals for their conditional support for trans people
out of all things to say about us that is certainly one of them, given that we've mass purged our own userbase multiple times over these issues
we have been on this site for three years before federation with the same strict anti-bigotry culture since the beginning. I wish you guys could realize how fucking wild conspiracies like this sound like to us. Like we were only pretending to be gay marxists to ourselves for three years lmao
We're 4chan trolls who have been running a running joke where we refuse to tolerate racism, misogyny, transphobia. We did it all in isolation for 3 years, so we could show up here, requiring lots of actual development work to re-merge and federate, as a bit.
This is what liberals need to believe to continue daily life free of mental interruptions.
And it would be so much easier to not give a shit about any of that. You really don't get anything for standing up for the powerless (aside from the fact that our trans posters are among the most powerful ever known).
We literally bring it up ourselves for no particular reason
Because we definitely don't have multiple different queer communities with >3 years of posts in them and a weekly queer specific megathread every week for 3 years and we definitely didn't recently onboard r/traaa too and we definitely don't have a modteam that is over 50% trans and enby,
We also definitely don't have a site wide culture of mocking and bullying transphobes internally and we definitely didn't have a trans admin bully all the power posters into reading Trans Liberation: Beyond Pink and Blue 3 years ago in the site's early days
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
The whole thing about that was that the Nazis didn't do anything socialist, and in fact the term privatization was invested to describe their economic policies. Hexbear acts against LGBT hate, racism, ableism, etc., so this analogy is a non-starter.
Fascism is only a vibe, and the vibe is "something CmdrShepard disagrees with"
It's literally the only place on the internet that I, as a Trans woman, feel completely safe. The ONLY people who I know 100% will go to bat for me even when it is inconvenient.
You're a fucking moron.
we are about as far from 4chan as you can get, we're just rude to losers like you who equate queer liberationist leftists with incel pedophile racists on 4chan
Go fuck yourself!
(P.S. This is why we're rude sometimes, absolutely go and fuck yourself)
Ahh the one true leftist is here! Gatekeeping.
How are we like 4chan users? We filter slurs and ban users who try to engage in hate speech. We offer content/NSFW warnings. We don't doxx or send death threats and ban those who try.
I want to know why you looked at Hexbear and saw 4chan.
I don't say people trying to associate Hexbear and 4chan are fed posters, but I say that if I were a
I would certainly try to make that association popular.
Oh, full stop. I was just hoping I could get an answer about what they dislike about 4chan to use it as an insult against us. Because right now, it just seems like the tone. Not any of the other fucked up things on that image board.
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I've never used that website, I'd imagine most hexbear users haven't. We're actually reddit refugees from 3 years ago, thank you very much 😤.
Not like that's much better lol.
There's no cosplay here, I can promise you that. I'm bi and communist, don't know about other users. I know we have a sizeable amount of trans users as well. Pretty sure none of us are cosplaying as left of LGBT.
I never used Reddit, I never listened to the podcast. I came here from a discord server lol. I’m basically without original sin here. I’m the perfect leftist.
We're to the left of you. Cope. Seethe. Communism or barbarism, and it's pretty clear what you're into
You got us, all of our theory reading groups, real life mutual aid, and threads about loving our trans comrades have all been part of an elaborate 3-year long running gag to trick you, the main character.
And yet you would betray all of that work to ineffectively dunk on libs. Which motivation is truly the priority?
You say that like lib dunking is an exclusively right wing activity, which is an adorably sheltered thing to think
I'm saying that all of your theory reading groups, real life mutual aid, and threads about loving your trans comrades are entirely insignificant in precipitating a communist society. Your behavior on Lemmy is actively pushing people away from communism as an ideology, and thus I question whether your users are truly committed to aiding the proletariat in their struggle.
Marx would be ashamed of you people.
"Noo you can't just be mean to bigots, you're pushing people away from communism, noo why are you standing up for maligned and beseiged socialist countries, Marx would be ashamed of youu
"
Case in point. Teen angst masquerading as communism
You'd need to establish an antagonistic relationship between the two before this remotely works as an own.
Sure. The people who you are childishly attacking comprise the audience that you have been provided to spread your leftist ideals and accomplish your purported communist objectives. But instead of evangelizing, you choose to resort to mockery and snickering inside jokes, thereby ensuring that your isolated community never gains enough relevance to effect real change. It's amazing to me that I have to spell this out for you, you should be abundantly aware after being defederated by the vast majority of other servers.
Your entire shtick is a self-congratulatory circlejerk just for being on team "We Hate America". That's not communism, it's teenage angst.
It's so cute when libs project their purile lack of knowledge onto the people consistently tearing their imperial worldview apart
Puerile*
What? No one on Hexbear is on it because we think we're going to "effect real change" on here lol
Maybe you forget how isolated lemmy is in general. Even if we wanted to do that it's not even possible. This is just our comfortable space in an ocean of online liberalism. We're happy to discuss politics with people in good faith and it's great if we can help educate people but pretty much everything important happens in real life, offline. So don't act surprised when you're met with mockery because you've accused us of betraying communism for not letting the bigots, transphobes, reactionaries, and libs talk down to us and insult us on the Internet in some naive attempt to "convert" them.
Also, we get along fine with most of the fediverse! I'm glad we're still connected to lemmy.ml, lemm.ee, sdf, etc even though there can be a few bad actors. I'm not sure federating with your instance was a good idea though...
Fair enough. I think you're delusional if you believe that your users are accomplishing anything important in real life, due to their terminally online status and lack of social graces, but sure.
It's amazing to me that you don't recognize that the internet has become the most powerful tool for social control in human history, and any attempt to counter the prevailing narrative will inevitably have to incorporate a digital component in order to succeed. But sure, Lemmy is just where you take out your frustrations on the libs after a hard day's work ineffectively unionizing and canvassing for irrelevant leftist politicians. Good luck with that, you're really making a difference 👏
Sorry, posting is primarily not praxis lol
Sure, the revolution will have a "digital component" but I don't really see the point in being conciliatory to smug closed-minded assholes on one of the most niche social media platforms on the internet. It's obvious you don't know anything about Marxism or about how social change is made so you can keep your advice to yourself. We try to keep details about our efforts in the real world vague because we don't want to be doxxed.
Yes, I'm sure letting people call us slurs, red fascists, pretending-to-be-LGBT-people, and Chinese/Russian bots on lemmy (the most important social platform, the social platform of the revolution) without any pushback will exert enough social control on them to make them do communism. Our posts will make Marx proud!
Comments like this have really shown me that liberals don't actually care about beliefs at all (hexbear having diametrically opposed beliefs to 4chan). They only care about tone.
Why yes, groups of people who act like a bunch of dogpiling 4chan trolls typically don't have their beliefs respected or acknowledged. Tone is important. Glad we could help you come to that realization.