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Trans Liberation: Beyond Pink or Blue by Leslie Feinberg
Trans Liberation Chapo Discussion
Stone Butch Blues by Leslie Feinberg
Transgender Warriors: Making History from Joan of Arc to Dennis Rodman by Leslie Feinberg
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Transgender Map by Andrea James
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What makes this behaviour so uncomfortable is that it combines clocking, which is pretty uncomfortable, with being "nice", the pronoun intro. Even if the intent was to be nice to the trans person, it still pushes scrutiny on us and makes us feel isolated as well as making us question our presentation and appearance, which is especially hard for transfemmes, since bc of transmisogyny, we get judged for our looks thrice as hard as other people.
Thus what I receive from this introduction is not "This person is an ally", but "this person lords my appearance over me and wants to be my friend at the same time", which is incredibly patronizing and socially threatening.
Getting mad at someone for, by your own admission, trying to be nice sounds self defeating to me, but I hear what you are saying about it feeling patronizing.
To me it sounds like what you’re really upset about is being clocked. Being clocked is shitty. Clocking someone is awkward.
If you start the pronoun discussion yourself, does that help? Theoretically cis people should be doing that automatically, so if you don’t get clocked then great you’re normalizing pronouns. If you did get clocked then it changes nothing and it saves you feeling like someone is white knighting on your behalf?
yo, I am just being constantly screamed at by transphobes, bc no hrt makes clocking really easy, I might be what people called tired, like if this happens everyday along with the expectation that I should be nice to people fumbling about, I am just pissed. Is it emotional? yea sure. Is it that wrong? Less than being a mediocre ally imo, but yeah always take the high road and be grateful for any breadcrumbs they throw at me ig