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[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I've only heard about perfumes that once contained whale juices? ...What do these whales produce in terms of raw and or commercial material. or is it for sport these days? not that any of it is okay.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yes this they used to use wheel spinal fluid as a base for perfumes. Because of course they did.

I think that practise was banned years ago mostly because it isn't remotely sustainable.

Iceland has this weird thing about wailing. You see all these whaling ships right alongside whale tour boats. It's like they sort of get it but can't quite get over the culture of whale hunting.

Which in fairness is part of their culture but they have a Costco there now as well so...

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Genociding Native Americans and slavery are part of American culture too, but we mostly stopped that.

Would you accept "ItS tHEiR cUlTuRe" if someone decides whaler hunting is part of their history?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Are you seriously comparing the responsible hunting of a sustainable number of minke whales to the deliberate genocide of an indigenous population?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'll have to comfort eat to deal with the sadness. Where are the whale burgers?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So contrarian and edgy! You must rule 8th grade!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is no such thing as sustainable or responsible whaling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Believe what you want. You've already decided that you are both offended and correct, so there's nothing that anyone can say to change your mind. Just understand that not listening doesn't make you right, it makes you a zealot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Provide a source that whaling is sustainable and responsible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you know what "culture" means. It's not just stuff that people did in the past, it's what traditions are based around.

How do you think Iceland traditionally got food? They're not exactly surrounded by arable land are they?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This just in: tradition is an excuse to dress up and party, not do bad things.

[–] captain_aggravated 4 points 11 months ago

"It's tradition, that makes it okay! Hip hip hooray it's Weasel Stomping Day!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Except can you really say "genociding native americans" and "slavery" are a part of American culture? Is it "customary" of Americans to kill native americans and slavery can be an American trait?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Yes, it was explicitly part of American culture, and is written into our very foundational documents.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

If you include the period before we split from England we spent centuries taking land that didn't belong to us and building our economy at least partly on slavery. If you look at the South in that time frame slavery permeated their culture. It is as fair to say that slavery was if anything much more deeply embedded in Southern culture than whaling in Iceland.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Except can you really say “genociding native americans”

As a country, the US has spent more of its existence genociding native Americans than allowing women to vote, or having a standing army.

and “slavery” are a part of American culture?

The US currently has fully legalized privatized slavery. You, specifically you, can own a slave in the US right now. You can even treat them as if the constitution does not apply to them in any way. Simply buy a prisoner and get a judge to commit that prisoner to you for the length of their sentence. It's so ingrained in our culture, we've never stopped the practice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm guessing this is what the >!Avatar: Way of the water thing was based on!<

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

whales have something in their brain cavity that was considered valuable at the time, can't remember what it was called or what it was used for but I think that was the equivilant thing they were going for in Avatar

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Whales have been used for a number of resources in the past.

Oil from blubber was a big one, and used in everything from lamps to soap.

Ambergris was a perfume base.

Spermaceti, the substance in the head of sperm whales, was used for candles and also lamps, as it was a higher quality.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

ambergris? but i think that was only found in sperm whales