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Ahhh yes, someone who cannot read between the lines to understand the true meaning. Thank you for this wonderful example.
"I'm scared of having my political illiteracy exposed and dunked on so I only ever write intentionally vague responses."
I felt it was pretty understandable. We can have a nice conversation, or we can stop. Up to you.
Say something that isn't vague and useless then.
Kill the rich.
Which ones? There are plenty of rich working class people that I consider comrades. The issue we socialists have isn't income, the issue is class, which is quite different.
Your class is determined not by your income but by how you receive your income. A working class person makes their income by selling their labour to a member of the bourgeoisie (capital-owner), whereas a member of the bourgeoisie makes their income by stealing the surplus labour from a member of the working class.
There are working class people that can make quite a bit of money. Athletes and actors for example. Although in many cases once people make that kind of money they also become members of the bourgeoisie by investing it in passive income such as landlording or stocks, that is not true of all of them and is very much something that should not be assumed.
As for killing the bourgeoisie, I am in favour of simply phasing them out. Although I am not naive enough to think that they will just allow that to happen without trying to kill every last one of us first to prevent it, and believe in the need for us to be prepared for violent action when they do turn to that option. It is not an act that I think should be advocated for by itself, other than with some hefty layers of irony as a means of generally promoting militancy.
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Do consider a person with $500,000,000 USD to be a comrade?
There is a certain level of worth that is unobtainable without being a horrible human.
It depends entirely upon how it is obtained.
Generally you are correct that a certain level of worth is unobtainable without being a horrible human but not always. As I said, there are many athletes who are working class despite earning many tens of millions.
I very much consider Muhammed Ali a revolutionary comrade for example.
Then there is Maradona. An incredible comrade who has Fidel Castro's face tattoo'd to his leg and Che's on his arm. Who did incredibly important work for socialism in latin america.
You should focus less on their total income and more on how it is made. Class is what matters, and while class generally forms along the lines of rich vs poor this is a reductive simplification of marxist thought.
I mean... Herrenknecht has a revenue of roughly 1.2bn Euro, value is estimated at 800mn. Sure he hired tons of people and he's conservative, but Martin Herrenknecht legitimately built that thing, both the engineering and business side and seems well-liked enough by his employees.
And if we wants to drive a Porsche and live in a mansion I'd say fucking go for it. Now, OTOH, inheriting that kind of thing... Herrenknecht Junior practically grew up in the company and is a natural candidate for leadership, the company is now owned by a family foundation and there's where my issues start: We'll have a dynasty, profit gets siphoned off and paid out to the family. Would've much rather see them go the way of Bosch or Zeiss which are actual foundations, similar setup to e.g. Mozilla.