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All I've done is suggest that individual action is important along with systemic change and you've done nothing but get on my case and label me. It's not one or the other. This sort of binary thinking is the stupidity that is driving this world over the edge.
In any case, you claim that systemic change is the way. Please tell me how you are working on that. Let me sit down and strap in...
And I keep saying that individual action is positive, but inadequate, and shouldn't come at the cost of more effective systemic solutions. I really can't make it any simpler, nor can I understand why you're getting bent out of shape at me saying it.
Do you want to insist on deflecting to non-falsifiable ad-homs, or do you want a list of things you can do to encourage systemic change?
You certainly know that individual action does not come at the cost of systemic solutions. Thats just horseshit. You aren't discussing in good faith.
I've been doing my best to avoid accusations and ad hominem, but since you don't really have interest in an honest discussion, I'll be blunt: you are transparent, and obviously just too lazy and undisciplined to do anything personal about the situation, and want daddy authority figure and some tech god to fix everyone for you so you can go bury your head back in video games and burgers. Have a nice day.
It individual action certainly doesn't come at the cost of systemic solutions, but it absolutely can if you expend your avaliable time and energy on it. This is why I said "so long as it doesn't come at the expense of systemic solutions". We'll add that to the growing tally of your dishonesty in the face of a threat to the species as I await any example of mine that holds up even momentarily.
We've also repeatedly established that you can, and given your dishonesty, almost certainly will dismiss anything I assert I've done is bullshit - absent evidence from either side, this is pointless. I've offered examples nonetheless. I also never implied or advocated for tech solutions - just legislative, policy, and social solutions... There's that dishonesty yet again.
Consider why you insist on living in a fantasy bubble of your own bullshit and how relevant the solutions formed in fantasy land will be in the real world.
I've already listed several things I've done in this thread. You haven't mentioned a single thing because you spend your time in the dark on your phone eating chips and arguing with people. You aren't contributing anything, either through individual action or by changing the system.
I bet it's nice there in fantasy land - you seem real insistent on staying at the cost your integrity.