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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@TDCN

That part is all good. The problem is they don't care whose car it is. If I was to borrow your car, and then break this law, then YOU are out a car. Yes, you can try and get the money back from me, but that might take a decade if I don't have money to replace your car.
If you ask me, that's crazy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well I agree it might be a bit crazy, but I also must admit that I like the law because it works and it makes it such that I don't want to lend my car out to anyone unless I know for sure how they drive by driving with them a few times. It puts the responsibility into the hands of the car owner. Just replace the word car with gun and it all sounds reasonable. If I just lend my gun to a friend who I only know very little or I have never seen hold a gun in his hand that would be very bad. Even if he has a license for guns. And if he shot someone or broke the law in other ways with the gun I'd only expect the gun to be confiscated regardless of who owns it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@TDCN @joland replacing car with gun or riffle makes it even more absurd. You saying that if I lend a riffle to someone on a hunt, I should bear the consequences for their actions if they miss and hit something? Thankfully the law in rest of Scandinavia isn’t as insane…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a significant difference between an accident and deliberately being wrekless

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@TDCN There is nothing about being “wreckless” when borrowing something to someone else. If person has a valid driving license that is all that matters. We ain’t even taking about lending a car to a obviously drunk idiot which is punishable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the law will definitely make me think twice before lending my car to anyone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@TDCN And it is outright harmful to the environment, car pooling is a thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes carpooling is a thing but this law literally has nothing to do with this so I don't get your point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@TDCN Your literally lending a car. And if you lend it to some idiot, you have no car.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. Don't lend your car to an idiot. It's your car so also your responsibility. Keep it safe.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@TDCN it is a pool. You don’t know who you are lending too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Okay then I don't understand your way of car pooling. It's not really thing here since it's either impractical or public transport is way better or biking is a possibility

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@TDCN @joland here in the Netherlands the fine for a traffic violation is already up to the owner to sort out. They don’t give AF who drove the car. Your car. Your responsibility. Your problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I like that actually

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@joland @TDCN it's the same as if you crash a borrowed car while doing something that invalidates the insurance, eg racing.