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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While I am entirely against capital punishment at least if they use this method it will be much more humane.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

There is no such thing as humane capital punishment.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Much more humane," says who?

The article says "proponents of the new method have theorized it would be painless," but I'm not inclined to take their word for it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is painless. You can try it out yourself. Your body only detects excess CO2 not lack of oxygen. You will go lightheaded before passing out and eventually dying of oxygen starvation

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, and I can try it out myself? Thanks, mate. :)

Never heard of death by nitrogen until his morning, but this conversation got me curious enough to read this article, which doesn't convince me it's painless.

    When Alabama and two other states authorized nitrogen hypoxia, supporters said it was a more humane method of execution. Others, including the U.S. Supreme Court, have said there isn’t yet sufficient evidence to back up that claim.

    Because no person has ever been executed by inhaling pure nitrogen — there is seemingly no way to humanely test its use — exactly how the state will carry out a nitrogen hypoxia execution is unclear. A deputy state attorney general said the state has developed a protocol for it, but added that it has not been finalized....

It's only a quibble, though, for me. I'm opposed to the death penalty, even if they devise a method that causes fatal orgasm.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, this is absolutely nothing new. Without getting into details... this method of administering death has been advocated for by doctors and activists. Done correctly, the victim of this capital punishment may not feel a thing at all. Done poorly, there may be raised heart rate, hyper-ventilation, and involuntary convulsions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

...this method of administering death has been advocated for by doctors

You cracked me up with that. :) Sounds like a doctor my wife & I had in Kansas City...