this post was submitted on 25 Aug 2023
592 points (94.4% liked)

Canada

7230 readers
587 users here now

What's going on Canada?



Communities


🍁 Meta


πŸ—ΊοΈ Provinces / Territories


πŸ™οΈ Cities / Local Communities


πŸ’ SportsHockey

Football (NFL)

  • List of All Teams: unknown

Football (CFL)

  • List of All Teams: unknown

Baseball

Basketball

Soccer


πŸ’» Universities


πŸ’΅ Finance / Shopping


πŸ—£οΈ Politics


🍁 Social and Culture


Rules

Reminder that the rules for lemmy.ca also apply here. See the sidebar on the homepage:

https://lemmy.ca


founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should we keep people from dying from lung cancer because they smoked? Should we not try to help people dying from liver disease because they're alcoholics?

When the smoker/drinker fully admits they have zero intention of quitting, I would much rather give my lung/liver to someone who isn't going to get a full, healthy life out of it, rather than someone who clearly would rather continue abusing it and burn through it in a couple years.

Organs are a limited resource, that's why there is a list - and we should absolutely dedicate limited resources to doing as much good as possible

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah medical providers routinely do deny limited treatments (like organs) to people who refuse to stop taking drugs, smoking, or drinking. It makes complete sense too.

In the US, no one forces anyone to get a vaccine. But if a patient doesn't cooperate with the doctors' orders, they won't get the treatment.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It's not even really denying. They are just giving that organ to someone else. I'm sure if there were a glut of organs on the market somehow, then they could get less picky, but you don't. For every successful organ donation there are probably a dozen people who die waiting.