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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
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I've met more people that simply have the "I don't know, who cares?" attitude than people who actually ask questions and discuss issues, with some sort of articulateable reason for why something happened.
It's not an age issue, some people overthink everything when their a kid and older, while other people can't comprehend why anyone would want to ask questions.
Maybe the people you've met who "don't care" aren't interested in participating in your weird probing into whether they're p-zombies or not.
this is the guy who's been posting bogus race science elsewhere and has been escorted to the egress
Ed: oh fuck it my bad you’re a horrible racist. Alright
The question is always, and I mean ALWAYS “what exactly do you mean by ask questions and discuss issues?” Because from the very first second you complain that people don’t do that, it is a universal law that I will ultimately or quickly find you (a) refusing to do that, (b) complaining about somebody who did exactly that because it didn’t go your way. Some valorised ideal of “someone who asks questions and discusses issues” is cant, it is for all intents and purposes meaningless beyond what LessWrongers would call “signalling” that this is the sort of person you personally would like to be, hugely conditioned by class/culture/etc.
It’s almost exclusively a matter of vocabulary: people identify speaking in a particular register with being that kind of person as they understand that ideal, to the point that they will literally be blind and deaf to real life question marks in order to push an interpretation through as to whether or not their conversation partner matches up.
Don’t say stuff like that, be concrete and specific.
This, so much this