https://gizmodo.com/google-s-pixel-8-sim-slot-esim-only-iphone-1850759671
What happened to daring to be different? What happened to having options? What happened to creativity?
this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2023
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Since physical sims are well physical items. They create ewaste. Whereas esim which is not a physical item, doesn't.
Just embrace better technology
Just download more ram
Mark my words, this is coming. Once RAM is cheaper than having multiple production lines, you'll buy phones with RAM that is disabled and you'll have the option of enabling it OTA.
Let's not give them any more 'innovative' ideas.
Isn't there a designated chip for the esim? From what I found, it looks like it is a physical Item too. We could of course argue that standard sim require a sim reader on the phone.
But the possibility to replace a SIM if defective without replacing the whole phone is an advantage. You can also swap sim really easily when travelling.
But the esim doesn't need to be at the edge of the phone body. It enables significant simplification in layout design.
I don't think the size of a micro SIM is significant, considering the size of the phone it's in.
Sorry what? It creates a door, which needs to be sealed for IP rating, which needs to be located in physical relation to the edge of the phone body, needs power and data vias routed to/from which dictates the location of the radio, antennae etc. etc. etc.
It's absolutely impactful to the electronics design no matter the screen size, you just can't see all the decisions and compromises associated with it.
Yeah, I didn't think about the amount of tiny little parts it needs around it. But what I meant by that is that once a phone gets wasted, all the micro-tiny cables and plastic SIM door and the SIM's collective weight and volume are quite minuscule, compared to the phone's weight and volume. It's an improvement, for a fact. But is it really worth gutting that phone of the SIM slot for such a tiny improvement?
In my country you have to pay €10 every time you reset your phone to download the esim.
Think I'll pass.
What network and where? Many (the majority) networks offer it for free. There is talk of regulation forcing it to be free to download too, and it can't come soon enough.
In my country I was given the physical sim for free from Best buy. I felt like I was stealing walking out the store with it.
In theory, I like esims.
In practice, I worry that the manufacturers/networks will screw us over somehow as you can't just take their SIM out...
So does upgrading your phone every year. Yes, people do that.