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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)
    1. Vaccines against coronavirus have been in development for decades. The urgency for them really ticked up with in the early 2000's with SARS coronavirus floating around. Also the tech for quickly developing mRNA vaccines has been in the works since the 80's.
    1. HIV is a very different virus and we do have pretty good treatments to prevent infection (prep) and stop HIV from becoming AIDS. I have someone in my family that has had HIV for decades and he is going to die from old age, not AIDS.
    1. Cancer, like a broken leg, is not a virus. It's an entirely different medical problem.
[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

you raise a good point. we still don't have vaccines for broken legs either. this puts the reality of all other supposed vaccines into further doubt.

spoiler/s in case that wasn't clear

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well, I've heard about this one guy named Logan who got a vaccine for broken bones.... After he got it, he never broke a bone in his body again.

.... He also got sweet blades that come out from his hands.

[–] Kftrendy 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There IS the HPV vaccine, which is basically a cancer vaccine for one set of cancers.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I guess you could say the same thing about hepatitis vaccines.

HPV and hepatitis are not cancer, but they can increase the risk of certain cancers. Often times the best way to beat cancer is to limit exposure to the things that can increase the risk of getting it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Immunotherapy is also often called cancer treatment vaccine. And HepB vaccine also protects from liver cancer associated with Hep B.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also significant parts of mRNA vaccine research were built on HIV research! Fighting HIV/AIDS directly led to the technologies that let us make the Covid vaccine possible. We really do "stand on the shoulders of giants" - we build new knowledge based off the work of those who came before us!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

mRNA vaccines yes, not more traditional vaccines like J&J- but generally true.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Also good to remember there's also newer tech like alphafold from the deepmind project - using AI to really, really accelerate development.

https://alphafold.ebi.ac.uk/

Absolutely blows my mind.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

To these people an apple isn't an orange. They can't tell that they're both fruit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for explanation.