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LoglineA distress call from Lt. Noonien-Singh compels Spock to disobey orders and take the USS Enterprise and its crew into disputed space, risking renewed hostilities with the Klingons in a bid to aid their shipmate.

Written by Henry Alonso Myers & Akiva Goldsman

Directed by Chris Fisher


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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I loved that they gave Dr. M'Benga some screentime front and center and showed that he can throw down if necessary, even if it was with the help of some super serum stuff. And while I even loved his (and Nurse Chapel's ) elaborate fight scene and enjoyed the way they filmed it, I'm also not sure if it quite fits with Star Trek. Just not sure yet with the excessive slow motion. The camera angles however were some great artistic choice. But overall one great start to season 2.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I thought the fight scene was kinda out-of-character for a doctor and a nurse. If anyone would have an inherent respect for life and health of other beings, you'd expect it to be medical workers: beating them up is just highly unethical. Why couldn't they have used subterfuge to achieve the same goals?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He might be doctor, but he also served in the war and from what it looks like the front lines. Same goes for the nurse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That confused me a bit, were M'benga and Chapel not serving in the Enterprise during its last five year mission, which we were told they were not called back from to fight?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the season one premiere, it was clear that both M’Benga and Chapel had just rotated onto the Enterprise while she was under repair.

Pike knew M’Benga and was please to see him, but didn’t expect to find him in sickbay. Chapel was introduced to Pike as a civilian on assignment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Fair dos, that must have slipped my memory.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I thought that too - even moreso how much it took me out of the show to see them take on three klingons per person. Still a great show and decent episode, but that bit did take me out a bit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

those were klingons. they basically did them a favor, engaging in a fight

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@aufsichtsrat @ValueSubtracted I think it was a needless cinematographic choice to use slow mo there. With the excessive cuts, it shows a lack of fight choreography (contrast with Jackie Chan movies, Kingsman, etc.)

I'm still waiting for M'Benga to slap Spock silly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, I think I might agree, was perhaps just a tad bit too much on the slow mo. It will be interesting to see how the Dr will handle Spock once he inevitable breaks Chaple's heart.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I thought it was highlighting the effects of the serum they had taken. To chapel/m'benga time had slowed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

M’Benga turned out to be my favorite character from last season, and I’m glad they’ve been able to stretch his character out beyond having it centered around his daughter this season. He should have an interesting character arc from what they showed in this episode.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

@Fixzylicious @aufsichtsrat I think Chapel and Spock are going on a journey together too. I ❤️ Jess Bush

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

He definitely is one of my favorites, too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd say it fits more with the space cowboy ethos of the TOS era (although we saw no two handed punches). If they did it in the TNG era it'd feel more out of place.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was waiting for the double handed punch! Gutted they didn't do it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Especially when they're on whatever that green shit is!

It would have been awesome to see nurse chapel do a double handed punch to a Klingon face and their head just explodes.