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Also here is the head mod defending a transphobe/chaser https://hexbear.net/comment/3762972

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Eh, you can definitely use verifiable facts to derail a discussion.* It all depends on context and whether those facts are being framed truthfully and with good faith. There just isn't enough context to go off of here. I don't really care about OP's politics because the point stands whether I agree with his politics or not

*Edit: See the book Merchants of Doubt about how cigarette companies in the 70s misused scientific findings to cast doubt on the link between cigarettes and cancer. Stuff like pointing out how women and men had similar smoking rates, but not cancer rates. They left out the part that women smokers tended to be much younger. Thus, in a couple decades their cancer rates matched men's, but by then the damage was done. Bam - use of verifiable facts to lie and derail

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

*Edit: See the book Merchants of Doubt about how cigarette companies in the 70s misused scientific findings to cast doubt on the link between cigarettes and cancer. Stuff like pointing out how women and men had similar smoking rates, but not cancer rates. They left out the part that women smokers tended to be much younger. Thus, in a couple decades their cancer rates matched men's. Bam - use of verifiable facts to lie and derail

ok yep, fair. completely see your point. my point was just that the comment was in good faith and from someone who doesn't even have a political allegiance to the projects he's talking about.

but all of this is secondary to the main issues which are:

  1. a mod using ableism and banning criticism of it
  2. the same mod defending chasers

on hexbear, we don't tolerate this shit and we don't want to expose the vulnerable members of our community to it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

In don’t think we agree on what the main issue is here.

My main issue is people starting shit and escalating, then when the mods take action escalating again to the instance admins.

I think that “you on hexbear” need to take a chill pill and let the shorks run their instance.