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This is a good example, why not all devices should be connected to foreign servers. Errors can happen everywhere. But it could end badly, if some Corporations make errors and creating trouble, which would otherwise not happen.

In the case of the 3D-printer it is not that bad (except it destroys itself or even gets on fire), also you can turn it off. But imagine a smart stove top that lights up a towel (or something similar) while nobody is home.

Not, that I think that it is not useful to have something like that, but wouldn't it be nice, if that stuff would work locally? (with the WireGuard integration in modems, the access from outside of home with the smartphone, should also be no problem for non-tech people)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

But surely, a 3D printer could/can. It's just that the software that runs on it shouldn't have shit security and there should be multiple safeguards and redundant fail-safe systems.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It shouldn't be be required to use a cloud service in order to use a piece of hardware that you bought and paid for.

I'm disturbed seeing so many of the new consumer targeted 3D printers (and so many other products) going in the "cloud required" direction.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

shouldn’t be be required to use a cloud service in order to use a piece of hardware that you bought and paid for.

of course. I didn't really insinuate that it should.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I wasn't disagreeing with you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That's true.

Like in the example, Why the heck should a stove should need cloud access. Or even better... a tesla power wall... -.-

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I disagree. I think 3D printers don't need any security because they shouldn't be accessible directly from the internet.

If you want to 3D print things remotely, you should put your printers on a DMZ and use a piece of software that bridges the DMZ that starts/manages jobs, and hide that behind a VPN and MFA.

As you said, multiple layers of security, but I don't think 3D printers should be expected to provide any of that, except maybe checksums on print jobs so they don't print corrupted files. Have hardware vendors focus on making their hardware better, have software vendors focus on making their software better, etc. Once you start expecting hardware vendors to manage security properly, you dun goofed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thats true. I assumed that the bamboo Labs printer has some kind of thermal shutdown / overheating protection.

But i guess that is not enough. They should also habe a fire detection. Something like a smoke detector (optional would also be fine)

My printer got one installed above (but this one is because i fear that my PSU is catching fire xD )