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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should try understanding where the other person is coming from before accusing them of being brainwashed by their government.

Have you ever looked at the so-called Political Compass? There's a 'left to right' axis and an 'authoritarian to libertarian' axis https://www.politicalcompass.org/ So you can be authoritarian and leftist according to them (there is a hidden bias in the test, towards libertarian socialism)

I'm not even saying that, I'm coming at this from more of a 'post-left anarchist' perspective, that there is no 'leftism' as such but what is left or right is a relative historical development, so otherwise contradictory movements end up being lumped together as 'leftists' by historical accident, but they still end up influencing each other, so for example marxism has historically influenced anarchism and vise versa.

You're saying there is some ahistorical 'true' leftism that's objective and indistinguishable from anarchism. You can also just say "anarchism is cool" and I would agree with you and we can not have this pointless argument. see also no true scotsman fallacy

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

The political compass is skewed. The far right is always authoritarian and the far left is always anarchic. The middle is bargaining, the realm of confusion and many masters. I agree that right and left are mere terms of convenience. Politics are delusion. The real spectrum is gnosis (left) versus ignorance (right).