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Former President Trump on Monday appeared to warn former Georgia lieutenant governor Geoff Duncan against testifying before the Fulton County grand jury in the state's 2020 election probe.

Driving the news: "I am reading reports that failed former Lt. Governor of Georgia, Jeff Duncan, will be testifying before the Fulton County Grand Jury," Trump wrote on his Truth Social account on Monday.

  • "He shouldn't. I barely know him but he was, right from the beginning of this Witch Hunt, a nasty disaster for those looking into the Election Fraud that took place in Georgia."
  • Duncan, who criticized Trump's false election fraud claims in 2020, said Saturday that he had been told to appear Tuesday before the Fulton County grand jury.
  • "Republicans should never let honesty be mistaken for weakness," he wrote in a post on X.

What's next: Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis appears poised to issue a charging decision on Trump's alleged efforts to subvert election results.

The big picture: Trump's Monday Truth Social post comes days after the judge overseeing a separate trial — the federal probe into his alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election — warned against making "inflammatory statements" that could intimidate witnesses in that trial.

  • U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan said during a Friday hearing that any appearance of witness tampering would increase the need for a speedy trial.
  • Trump already faces three criminal trials: In D.C. over efforts to overturn the 2020 election, in Florida over his retention of classified documents and in New York over an alleged hush money payment.
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[–] [email protected] 198 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (34 children)

This is him attempting to call the judge’s bluff. Following the order, he also posted calling the judge biased. He’s exploring to see if the judge will let him get away with it. He’ll slowly ramp up the posts until the judge tells him to cut it out again, and then he’ll know where the line is. At that point, he’ll simply toe the line and cry “but it wasn’t a problem before” if she tries to cut down on it later.

He believes the judge is afraid to hold him in contempt, and thus far he has been correct. But this is a direct violation of the judge’s order, and the judge shouldn’t let it slide. If she treats this with leniency, he’ll only take it as tacit approval and continue getting more inflammatory. The only reason I can see for the judge allowing it to continue is to give him more rope to hang himself with. One violation of the order is bad, but if she lets it continue and he racks up a bunch of evidence, she may have better justification to hold him and expedite the trial.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I hate to say it, but Trump is correct: he could literally murder the judge in this (or any) case on live TV and get away with it. why? because they let him. they refuse to hold him accountable for anything, and that’s why he keeps doing this shit— and getting away with it.

The only reason I can see for the judge allowing it to continue is to give him more rope to hang himself with

the problem is: HE NEVER GETS HUNG WITH THE ROPE. he just gets away with everything, time and time again. fines are meaningless to him because he just gets his idiot supporters to pay for it.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

And lets stop pretending that any level of discourse is going to reach the remaining trump cult, we could literally have a video of him raping their mothers and they would still vote for him, so its time to give up on those people they are never coming back no matter how much evidence we have or how many charges there are.

[–] krayj 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

we could literally have a video of him raping their mothers and they would still vote for him

They would. They would call the video 'fake news' and find it easier to assume their mother was lying than admit their false prophet is capable of any wrongdoing. They've built their entire identities around their unwavering confirmation bias. The vast majority of people who ever successfully disconnect from a cult do so only posthumously.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Its worse that that, they would consider it an honor that trump chose to rape the women in their family. Its koolaide time and we all know its coming

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

MAGA cultists: Our moms should be honored that Trump likes them!

Also MAGA cultists: Dems caused our moms to get raped!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And of course trump is sooo incredible STUpid that he doesnt know how to use the phrase, 'one more than we need' instead he says 'one more than we have', which insinuates that he has only 11779 votes to begin with!!! GAWD HES SO DUMB!!!

And if they had given him 11780 votes for some reason, he would then be 1 vote ahead of Biden in that race which would have triggered and automatic recount. Man if your going to ask people find votes for you, ASK FOR LIKE 20,000 IDIOT!!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This user election frauds

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe under U.S. Law they have to arrest him again and post no bail. This is a blatant disregard for the law. To not act is an injustice to the history of common law going back 800+ years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can’t even tell if you’re joking. that’s how much of a shitshow joke our justice system has become.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Not joking, it goes back to the Magna Carta and the origins of common law. In fact it is Clause 39 of the Great Charter of June 1215 CE and a case before Pope Innocent III and ordeals of fire and water. It's interesting but it is the origin of jury trials and witness tampering laws.

[–] eestileib 3 points 1 year ago

Ok but the Magna Carta isn't really a thing over here, and I'm sure the common law precedents for witness/jury tampering have been superceded by new legislation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

great. now I’m sad.

well, more sad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

its Jesse "He can't keep getting away with this!" but in real life

[–] eestileib 1 points 1 year ago

He could walk into court fully erect shouting "Yes! I did it motherfuckers, I am guilty, I am death!" and the judge would still let him roll up in her crib, take a shit, dress up like Santa and take pictures with her kids.

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