Has anyone else noticed how prevalent Hexbear posters have suddenly become? Maybe sometime last week I noticed nearly every political post had at least one long thread of Hexbear users that do nothing but repeat CCP talking points while waving anyway anything even remotely reliable as Western propaganda. That or getting all excited about trolled libs. The way they tell it, you'd think everything from DW, to Fox, to Propublica, to straight up AP News articles, are all written by the same people.
Not to mention, their info on the Fediverse observer is either straight up wrong or there's some serious botting going on. According to that, the instance is less than a month old, yet somehow they already have one of the largest, most active userbases, along with far and away the most comments of any instance.
Seems to me like Lemmygrad on steroids. Considering we defederated from them, seems like a no-brainer to block Hexbear as well.
So glad this thread could become such a perfect microcosm of why we need to defederate.
Hard to be inclusive when the response to almost anything and everything is to call someone a "shitlib" and dip, unless you mean inclusively exclusive by insulting everyone.
What really puts the nail in that coffin, though, is the very extreme support Hexbear has for China, unless, again, you are comfortable denying everyone basic human rights so it's considered inclusive.
When you live in a society where then entirety of mainstream discourse is between one side rainbow-washing carpetbombers and the other side calling that rainbow-washing evidence of an evil queer agenda, it sure should look like anyone repeating mainstream talking points is a shitlib.
Sticking to the queer topic, this is like when people used to concern troll about Cuba because it had laws in the '70s that were as homophobic as the typical western country, but that has become more difficult in the last few years as it has taken up -- to my knowledge -- the most progressive, inclusive family code in the world.
China right now is perhaps slightly behind the average western country in this respect, but there is a clear positive trend.
Supporting China is normal and good. Sorry there aren't any mods here to make it seem like your bazinga brain views are popular.
Ok, which HumanRights ™️ are we talking about?
idk i'm a trans lesbian and i have been on hexbear for 3 years and never been insulted or made to feel unwelcome on account of my identity a single time
now if by "inclusive" you mean "tolerant of right-wing bullshit" then no, we're not, and we never will be
Hard to be inclusive if you let bigoted shitlibs do their thing without pushback .
As a trans woman, i've never felt safe in liberal spaces, and the reason for that is largely debatebro shitheads like you who violently fight back against anything that challenges your notion of living in the best of all possible worlds, which reliably happens to include my own experiences with and thoughts on transphobia, mysogyny, classism and other forms of structural oppression and their intersections. Anytime i've done that in public online spaces that aren't exclusively trans, i've been browbeaten, called into doubt and silenced. I've never had that on hexbear. Let's not even begin with the fact that i've never had to explain to a hexbear mod what constitutes transphobia because half of the mod team is trans themselves, or that pronoun tags are mandatory, or that we've systematically banned anybody making a fuss about either of that.
Hexbear has actually put in the work to be a queer-inclusive space. And it has done that precisely by being brutally intolerant and absolutely belligerent to queerphobes instead of doing the liberal thing of empty gestures of tolerance while upholding the status quo that maims us. Meanwhile, anything you've ever done on lemmy is posting passive-aggressive one-liners and anti-communist garbage. Go fuck yourself.
We are explicitly anti liberalism given that it supports an inherently discriminatory economic system (capitalism).
I'm a bisexual trans girl whose found this space to be the most accepting space I've ever been in on the internet (including many exclusively trans spaces).
Also many of us are not as pro China as we seem from the outside, I'm a lot more critical of china than many of the other hexbear users and we have a decent number of anarchists who post here, however we close ranks against imperialist narratives pushing for a right wing coup of the Chinese government because regardless of our differing ideologies we all agree that would be awful for the Chinese people.
lol ”basic human rights”
I bet you're over on
fantasizing about grinding homeless people into a slurry right now.
Inclusive of marginalized groups, not liberalism
Lifting 800 million people out of poverty is denying them human rights, damn Europe must be a gulag compared to that
Hexbear is the most inclusive instance. If it's hard to be inclusive then we're just fucking great at it
Its possible for us to disagree about china without ripping each others heads off, I've been doin it for years
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Gonna need to second the other posters pointing out that as a trans person this is by far the most queer inclusive space I've ever been on the internet. I've been around for 3 years because it's actually a breath of fresh air scrolling through interactions between people without having to tolerate the high baseline misogyny and hitler particles present in the rest of the internet.
Getting called on the specific shit they're doing:
"you just accuse everyone of [the shit I'm doing]!"