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How on earth do people go to work if they don't drive
Walk, bike, scooter, train, tram, metro, trolley, bus. Plenty of countries can swing public transportation and plenty of people don't need to drive but still choose to.
Edit: It occurs to me now this person may have been sarcastic.
I drive among 12 different locations for work. Can't really give up the car.
What shitty job requires that?!
It's good. I drive from school to school seeing kids with disabilities.
It's dishonest to pick the work that specifically requires driving to complain about driving.
I wasn't complaining about driving - just saying that carless isn't always an option.
It's more dishonest to pretend such cases don't exist, it annoys me so much when people act like public transport is a magical solution to everything because I've relied on it a lot and there are so many issues to fix - for a start you have to address how dangerous it is, I don't like getting a night bus and I'm a scruffy male manual labourer - which cities would you want your 18yo daughter travelling across on bus and light rail at 11pm? Or you elderly mother?
Then there's the logistics, if I was going to visit eight people at home and had to get the bus between them then travel to and from the bus stop, waiting, changing bus and waiting again... Most of my day would be on the bus compared to a small percentage of it in a car if that was used instead. And yes you can say jobs like that shouldn't exist if you don't care about other people, just chuck the elderly, disabled and vulnerable people into a home and forget about them, who cares if women can't live normal lives let them stay at home if they want to be safe! All that matters is it's now cool to hate cars
Happily I don't live in your country, where, true, most cities seem to have been designed by car lobbyists.
All the arguments you imagined I'd use to rebuke you are, actually, part of the ethos and the public policy in your country, not mine, so you can stop projecting now.
I live in a European city with what's widely regarded as one of the best public transit systems in the West, most of the city was designed before cars even existed.
So no I'm not talking about America, are you trying to pretend that getting a bus in Barcelona, Rome, Paris or any other major European city is some magic fairy journey free of pick pockets, aggressive youths, creeps and weirdos? Because I've been on buses in all those cities and seen all those things regularly.
So it's their fault your argument didn't work as expected because their job requires driving?
Then you don't fall within the 'don't need to drive but choose to' segment. I don't fully agree with the root comment of this thread, there are definitely some jobs that require a personal vehicle, and yours sounds like one of them. But for most people who are commuting twice daily, more environmentally sound options can replace their personal car.
Do you happen to live in the United States?
As a Europen I find it hilarious the utopian view you guys have of life outside America.
I walk from my bedroom to my office.
For the last time, putting your bed in conference room 6 did not make it your bedroom.
Also please remove your clothing from the filing cabinets.
Rude! That's not a 'filing cabinet', it's a chest of drawers.
And who is wearing my ball gown again?
ERIC! Take that gown off now you little bitch!
[walks off in a huff]
That's cool and all but I'm an industrial electrician. I have to drive to the shop every day, and travel all over the country. Can't exactly just walk over to a coal mine in bumfuck nowhere Kentucky
Just use the bus, duh.
Can't tell if this is sarcasm but just to put my city's transit into context, it'd be a 2 hour bus ride to get to the shop via bus from my house. And that's:
12 minute walk -> ride a bus -> 6 minute walk -> transfer and take a different bus -> 14 minute walk
Or a 22 minute drive
It was sarcasm.
But you could ride a bike! Which is really fun! In the winter, when there is heavy snow, or even on rainy summer days.
I don't get that some people just don't understand that it's sometimes just really inconvenient to not use a car, at least for some people. Please let them use cars without blaming them for doing so...? ๐ฅบ