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They're not nazis, they're communists, there's a big difference.
There's also a big difference between a communist and a tankie
Please do explain, because I really don't know the difference.
Well I think I worded that poorly, a communist is a pretty large term referring to a lot of different ideas, so you can't really say what a communist believes exactly. A tankie is a subsection of communists who want an authoritarian state that holds all power and are supportive or regimes like the USSR and Mao Zedong China (which imho were horrible regimes that has destroyed a lot of lives). Now I don't care about tankies and I don't care about the ideology so I know very little of it (so I might be far of reality here), but I don't think nazis and tankies are so far off in "horribleness"
How is ruling with an iron fist the same as irradicting entire nations/races?
Well I think that nazi germany was worse, but I think that comparing Stalin USSR and Hitler Germany and saying that one is worse than the other is like comparing dog shit and earwax to what is the better food. I'd probably choose earwax over dog shit, but it doesn't say much about either. If someone says "I don't care if it's dog shit or earwax, I'd still eat" and someone else comes in and says "I think earwax is a lot better" i think it's kinda absurd and doesn't really change a lot about the original statement.
So back to the original point of the lemmy creators were nazis instead, it would not change anything about if we should fork it or not. There are a lot of crazy open source devs with crazy political ideas that create amazing products and the product is not the same as the creator :)
And also I'm not super well versed I this, so if you think I'm wrong please explain to me why you think that. These are my opinions, but I'm not a scholar or anything
You don't want me to start comparing the US ruling order with USSR, trust me, you don't wanna go down that path.
Everyone's got skeletons in their closet. The point is you're comparing the ruling of Stalin to earwax. I could say the same about the US in general. Maybe ruling with an iron fist is better in some scenarios, have you thought about that? I could give you some that were actually pretty successful as societies, until the rulers died or were overthown by the US (which had no business meddling and trying to impose their social/economical order on others, but hey, surprise surprise, they did... because, of course, they're stringer and always right about everything 😒).
My point is, there are negative sides, sure, no doubt about that, but if you take the positive sides of any type of social order (hell, even nacizm), you can learn a lot, not to mention make current societies even better. Not everything in any social order is good and not everything is bad, but take the ideas that lie behind socialism and you'll see that, in general, the ideas are pretty good - give power back to the working class... basically, the people that make the world go roun. Just because a leader chose to rule with an iron fist, doesn't mean the society is bad or that everything he did was bad. Trust me when I say, this, I've lived long enough to experience socialism and democracy/capitalism first hand. There are lessons that can be taken from democracy, no doubt there, but there were valid reasons why ruling with an iron fist was a better solution. I could go on explaining why, but that's beside the scope of this post. If you're interested, I could get into more detail.