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Android vs. iOS (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I have been an Android user for 13 years now. After using almost every Google service possible I am going down the privacy rabbit hole lately. Gmail -> Proton Mail, Chrome -> Firefox, Keep -> Notesnook, Google Search -> Kagi, ...

I am currently using a Galaxy S23 with as few Google apps as possible (and focussing mainly on open-source apps). I am familiar with rooting (I was a CyanogenMod user back in the days), but today I want to use the phone without tinkering and problem solving. I also like to use a smartwatch and banking apps, so GrapheneOS is a no-go unfortunately.

So it is "Stock" Android (or Samsung's Android ) vs. iOS for me. Is it better (in terms of privacy) to use an iPhone or stick with an Android phone with an system wide ad-/tracking Blocker (I use Adguard)? It seems there are more privacy-friendly/open-source apps on Android.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I thought apple’s business model was to not sell your data but charge more upfront.

Charging more? Absolutely. Not sell your data? No, they will sell.

Charging more is only because people are willing to pay it. So why not? Most people don't even care about their data being sold, and will not stop buying apple products for it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I buy iPhones because I'm cheap and they're a better value. My last phone lasted me 5 years, and my current 11 pro is 3 years old and still going strong. If you don't replace your phone frequently, then iPhones are much cheaper than Android phones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have had my onePlus 8T since 2020, and got it "for free" from T-Mobile without any issue. I used to work at AT&T, and I've had so many customers with iPhones who would come when the bed iPhone came out, saying their previous gen iPhone is suddenly incredibly slow after the latest iOS update. Some of them, especially if they were 2 or more gens behind, the iPhone would just be black screen with no sign of life.

From my observation, android isn't only cheaper, but it has greater longevity too. If the company stops supporting the device, custom ROMs continue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This sounds like selection bias. If you are sampling only people who are replacing their old iPhones, then they will obviously be more likely to have broken iPhones.

Even if the hardware lasts, most android phones historically don’t remain updated for more than a few years. Your OnePlus 8T is due to lose basic security support in October 2024, so one more year from now. It’s already lost OS updates. Meanwhile, my iPhone 6s from 2015 still works and is still receiving security updates this year!

Look I’m not looking to start a format war. I think android phones are great. But I’m cheap and concerned about ewaste. I just want something to work for as long as possible.