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Why? What is going on?
lemm.ee is shutting down, due to admin burnout.
Isn't the whole point of lemmy is you don't "have" to monitor it with admins?
No, the point of Lemmy is to be decentralized and non-corporate. It has nothing to do with monitoring or moderating.
You just made me realise a non-zero amount of people have this view and post/behave however they want - leading to instance closures and defederations
Probably people getting down voted like crazy for asking simple questions isn't really good for retention or growth. Late stage reddit behavior. Guess lemmy is going to speed run all of the downside of reddit.
It's wise to not give a fuck about downvotes. They can't hurt you. You can't make it right for everyone. And that's okay. Sometimes you say stuff that agrees with a couple of people. Sometimes you don't. Questions included, as some might see those as a statement. You're free to do the same. Isn't democracy beautiful?
No, the point is that it's not controlled by any one megacorp or nation state. Being an open social media platform it's still going to have shitty people trying to attack its infrastructure to try to silence others or tilt voting the way they want or just chaotically troll the hell out of people. Admins are needed to protect it from that.
moderating is for mods. admins are there to keep lemmy.ee running. much like reddit still needs admins to run things, minus thier ability to ban accounts arbitrarily.
I do see why you're saying that, but a server without admins would rapidly become a breeding ground for entirely illegal discussions, and it would be at least defederated pretty rapidly
oh yea thats why alot of them dissociated with the tankies, and some illegal porn ones, especially csam.
Yeah but like who's gonna get mad if there's no corporate to report to. There's no ad space to sell. So you are spending energy moderation to what end?
I'm just trying to understand the setup I guess. I just assumed people started lemmy to get away from over moderation on reddit. I been here since the api crackdown on reddit.
Legal authorities operating in the host country will not be thrilled if you have an instance filled with csam, and all sane users will also want to be heavily distanced from it. The latter applies to any content widely deemed objectionable, not just to illegal material - which makes the motive for moderation pretty reasonable IMO. If the moderation for a instance doesn't suit the users, users and communities are free to move to an instance that better suits them, and this does happen. It's a strength of the fediverse.
No? What?
i think the point is that there is no single lemmy server - so if you want to put in the work and set up a server you never check up on, yeah sure whatever this isn't legal advice.
But also, if people wanna set up a space that bans the most obnoxious behavior while cultivating real conversation, they can do that too.
most of the admins left due to stress, or lack of hiring. thats why its shutting down.
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