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A fake Facebook event disguised as a math problem has been one of its top posts for 6 months (www.engadget.com)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

So let's try out some different prioritization systems.

Left to right:

(((6 * 4) / 2) * 3) / 9
((24 / 2) * 3) / 9
(12 * 3) / 9
36 / 9 = 4

Right to left:

6 * (4 / (2 * (3 / 9)))  
6 * (4 / (2 * 0.333...))  
6 * (4 / 0.666...)  
6 * 6 = 36

Multiplication first:

(6 * 4) / (2 * 3) / 9  
24 / 6 / 9

Here the path divides again, we can do the left division or right division first.

Left first: 
(24 / 6) / 9  
4 / 9 = 0.444...

Right side first:  
24 / (6 / 9)  
24 / 0.666... = 36

And finally division first:

6 * (4 / 2) * (3 / 9)  
6 * 2 * 0.333...  
12 * 0.333.. = 4

It's ambiguous which one of these is correct. Hence the best method we have for "correct" is left to right.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I stand corrected

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Maybe I'm wrong but the way I explain it is until the ambiguity is removed by adding in extra information to make it more specific then all those answers are correct.

"I saw her duck"

Until the author gives me clarity then that sentence has multiple meanings. With math, it doesn't click for people that the equation is incomplete. In an English sentence, ambiguity makes more sense and the common sense approach would be to clarify what the meaning is

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

100% with you. "Left to right" as far as I can tell only exists to make otherwise "unsolvable" problems a kind of official solution. I personally feel like it is a bodge, and I would rather the correct solution for such a problem to be undefined.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

It's so we don't have to spam brackets everywhere

9+2-1+6-4+7-3+5=

Becomes

((((((9+2)-1)+6)-4)+7)-3)+5=

That's just clutter for no good reason when we can just say if it doesn't have parentheses it's left to right. Having a default evaluation order makes sense and means we only need parentheses when we want to deviate from the norm.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It’s ambiguous which one of these is correct. Hence the best method we have for “correct” is left to right.

The solution accepted anywhere but in the US school system range from "Bloody use parenthesis, then" over "Why is there more than one division in this formula why didn't you re-arrange everything to be less confusing" to "50 Hertz, in base units, are 50s^-1^".

More practically speaking: Ultimately, you'll want to do algebra with these things. If you rely on "left to right" type of precedence rules re-arranging formulas becomes way harder because now you have to contend with that kind of implicit constraint. It makes everything harder for no reason whatsoever so no actual mathematician, or other people using maths in earnest, use that kind of notation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I fully agree that if it comes down to "left to right" the problem really needs to be rewritten to be more clear. But I've just shown why that "rule" is a common part of these meme problems because it is so weird and quite esoteric.