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p.s. If you are browsing a magazine, thread or account from Kbin (or anywhere else on the Fediverse!) and you want to interact with it somewhere else on the Fediverse but you can't find it by searching, here's how to make your server notice it:
It will then appear on your own server where you can interact with it.
p.p.s. Several people asking in the thread about how to appear on the microblogging sections of Kbin magazines.
As far as I can tell, just include one of the magazine's listed tags in your posts on Mastodon etc. For example to appear on the Apple magazine's microblogging section include #apple or #iphone or one of the other tags as shown at on the right side of the screen at https://kbin.social/m/apple
Microblogging is a separate tab from Threads, you need a Kbin account to start a new thread.
@feditips
I gave #Kbin another try, took a less popular instance without Cloudflare, create a magazine with appropriate tags in settings.
When I go and make a post on Mastodon with one of those tags AND even mention the group where magazine resides (just in case), but nothing makes the post appear on Kbin.
You can imagine my disappointment, as I promoted the shit out of Kbin prematurely and how it's suppoed to fetch remote posts - NOPE, doesn't work. 🤔 😔
@vintprox @feditips I think @ernest may have mentioned it but it still follows normal federation rules. At least one account on the kbin instance must be following your mastodon account, otherwise mastodon won't send the posts to the kbin instance for it to put in the right place.
@vintprox
Hmm... hey @ernest can you help with this?
@feditips Hey, due to recent spam campaigns, untested features, and the lack possibility of quick fixes on the new infrastructure, the federation has been temporarily restricted. The federated instances are currently limited to kbin<->kbin and kbin<->lemmy. I didn't want to add extra work for other admins on platforms where groups are not well-supported. After the planned update at the end of September, groups will also be restored for other platforms, including Mastodon.
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@ernest @vintprox
Thank you for the info, that makes sense! 🙏
Good luck with the development on the update 👍
@ernest @feditips
Oh, thank you, guys. That's a relief! 😅
@ernest Will past microblog posts be federated automatically or we'll need to post again to appear on Kbin?
@vintprox @vintprox But wait... in essence, Mastodon posts should indeed appear on the microblog in the appropriate magazine (e.g. https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/microblog/newest). The condition is that someone from the kbin instance must be following your account (in the case of tagging). The limitation goes the other way (posts from kbin are not visible in Mastodon groups). Could you please provide links to the posts you're referring to? I will try to verify this today.
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@ernest
Right, so, I have this issue where even if I follow magazine's group from Mastodon, it does not necessarily trigger anything on Kbin to make the Mastodon post appear in Microblog section.
Here is my magazine: https://kbin.melroy.org/m/drbboard/microblog/newest
And here is the post: https://techhub.social/@vintprox/111108832486309659
@feditips if #kbin is already able to post content to #Mastodon, it would be very cool if you could sign up to kbin via your Mastodon account. To me that just makes sense since both platforms already have functionality overlap.
I don't know how technically feasible that would be, just thinking aloud here. kbin already has log in with Google and Facebook accounts, so why not Mastodon ones too? If it's not feasible, nevermind. If it is, that would be very cool.
@cazzztle
I'm not sure what you mean by "signing up to kbin"?
Your account on the Fediverse only works with the server you signed up on, but your server lets you communicate with accounts and groups on other servers.
It's like with email: you can't use a Gmail account to sign in on Yahoo Mail, but you can still send emails between Gmail and Yahoo Mail accounts.
I don't think Kbin has Google or FB login by the way?
@feditips @cazzztle that’s always been a confusing bit for me. I had initially thought “federation” included SSO functionality, but that’s incorrect. It would be nice, especially with the various services popping up that are based on ActivityPub, but that’s not how any of this was designed.
@wholegroanoats @feditips I was hoping nobody would say that... 😭
Nevermind I guess. Maybe one day in the future that can be implemented
@cazzztle @feditips fwiw, matrix (federated chat) does let you set mastodon as an SSO provider, but I haven’t a clue about other services.