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I'm helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because "Linux can't play games" despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can't even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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[–] [email protected] 167 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I cant tell if people in this thread are trolls, ultra elite linux shills, or just people incapable of following simple instructions...

Like I get it, windows bad or w/e... But to act like it takes longer than an hour or two to install it, let alone 2 whole fucking days is just asinine.

Imagine having enough of a skill issue that it takes you 2 days to install Windows OS. The OS that idiot proofs itself by literally holding your hand on every option and walks you through itself to install.

Im not even joking, I re-install and have installed windows the past few years multiple times on personal devices for myself and my family and friends and even do it for professional devices and servers for my job. It is brain dead easy, enough that my tech illiterate grandparents managed to re-install it before I could make the drive to meet them and do it for them... I can't take this OP or anyone else seriously if they can manage to install a linux based OS but somehow have 2 days worth of trouble with Windows OS...

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was going to say... If it takes you literally 1.5 days to simply install and after 2 days you can't even launch Steam? I'm sorry, but you have extraordinarily fucked up. Whatever the fuck is happening there is not on Windows. OP, I would love to understand what you were seeing or what was happening. And I also wonder if you are using an actual Windows OS image, or what you tinkered with or ran scripts on to maybe "clean Windows up". Unfortunately so many of those scripts are also fucking notorious for breaking some Windows functionality, like the Xbox games and what not.

Don't get me wrong. Windows is becoming worse and worse in both features and performance (AI powered file recommendations in my start menu? get the fuck outta here). But I'm sorry, this complaint in the OP is not it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm sympathetic to a Windows install taking days (I've been there), but you're right that it's not Windows' fault. It's always some 10 year-old hardware with dodgy or no-longer-supported drivers. Maybe you could make an argument that it's partly Windows' fault because they push driver support onto the hardware vendors, rather than use Linux' model of having the kernel developers maintain them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That's fair. I guess when they mentioned they were building a PC I assumed it was relatively recent hardware. But I've been there when you can't get or find drivers, or Windows tells you the old drivers aren't compatible with newer OS' and things like that.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

OP is just wanting to shit on Windows because this is a Linux community.

[–] heavy 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100%

Lot of problems with the directions windows has gone or is going (cortana finally gone), but people need to chill if they think the OS is unusable or something.

Anecdotally I'm hoping SteamOS continues to progress how it has so there are even more reasons to not depend on Windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yo I forgot about SteamOS! I need to check in on that, thanks for reminding me!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes. I have done so many installs of Windows 10 LTSC in the last few years and even on HDD it doesn't take that much time.

This is a legit troll post. Despite Linux being better in some aspects, Windows totally steamrolls Linux on being easy to install.

Heck W10 LTSC has been super smooth and stable for me for the past 2 years on my work machine which I tend to use more than my Personal Laptop which runs Manjaro.