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New Lemmy Drama: "Feddit.org officially announces they will ban criticism of Israel and pro-Palestinian posts and comments."

I find this morally reprehensible. I have always spoken against defederazation when others have mentioned it. This is too much. Apologies if this upsets anyone.

Palestinians are human beings and have a right to life.

Edit: I have been persuaded by some thoughtful replies. I will block them from my view. I no longer support making the decision for others. Thanks all.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

If your comment contains the following, it will be removed from this community:

  • Calling for the dissolution of Israel, or calling for a one-state solution without specifying equal rights for all people; Jewish in particular.
  • Calling for a destruction, annihilation, an end of all Zionism or the like.
  • Equating Israeli actions and (historical) Nazism.
  • The slogan “from the river…”
  • Endorsement of or justifications for Hamas or Hezbollah, or slogans or graphics positively referring to these organizations. These are considered terrorist organizations in Germany.
  • … and obviously: Any of the common antisemitic tropes or calls to violence against Jews or Israelis

Comments will not be removed for the following:

  • Denouncing genocide.
  • Denouncing Israeli war crimes.
  • Criticizing Zionism as an ideology or political movement.
  • Referring to the current Israeli government as “criminal,” “expansionist,” or “far-right”.

pretty reasonable, admins can't change the law.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

they cannot change the law, but also they don't have to follow the law because they aren't within that country's jurisdiction.

From what I've heard these are german laws and their instance is based in austria. Those are different countries.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Not only that, this law has also in 99.9% of cases that I am aware of been enforced against the user who made the comment, not the site owner. Literally the only time I'm aware of it being enforced against the site owner is with Twitter, which kind of makes sense to me because (1) it is actually antisemitism in that case, not just "I wish Zionism would go away" and then BAN, (2) Twitter was actually arguably the source and the boosting agent for a lot of the antisemitism, it wasn't just a neutral forum where people could go on and maybe break the law all on their own initiative.

But yes, it is also relevant that brought up "our hardware could get confiscated" when it is the flimsiest of flimsy theories for how it could even happen, even if we assume that they were going to get raided somehow. I get it. No one wants the police to come talk to them, it's easy for me to talk over here safe (ho ho) in the USA. But the level of threat they are quaking in their boots over is very minimal. Very.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Is saying palestinians has right to armed resistance would it be considered an andorsement of hamas?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The slogan “from the river…”

Literally not a terrorist statement, sorry it just isn't and even including this makes it obvious how poorly thought through or examined Zionist's beliefs are. It should scare us all and I do not say that lightly.

If you will not resist your country deciding a statement is a terrorist belief when it provide zero actual evidence..the war is already lost and we are in for a hellish future.

The feddit admins are the worst flavor of morally bankrupt, which is cowardly AND morally bankrupt.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

It was also, langage / phrasing issues and Wikipedia's carefully worded hedging notwithstanding, originally a Zionist phrase. It only became a crisis when the people to whom all that 100% of the land had originally belonged wanted it back, and were talking about employing the same kinds of violence that had already been employed against them, and using more or less the exact same slogan to talk about what they wanted (wanted back.)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

fuuuuck that. there's only one kind of good zionist, just like there's only one kind of good nazi.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

admins can’t change the law

Neither could the people that hid Anne Frank. And yet, somehow, they found a way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My post doesn't seem to violate these rules, even if I find them overly-restrictive. Glad to see that it wasn't removed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I just copied what exactly they are going to remove.

Tbh if German laws are so strict it might be better to just disallow any kind of political content on feddit instance and just stick with hobby/meme type of content.