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[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I see it and just sigh because I know nobody will talk about the actual comic it will just be about how shitty of a person she is for X reason.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (25 children)

I’m out of the loop, what’s the pizza cake drama?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago (14 children)

pizzacake is a woman with opinions. misogynists hate her for that. One time, she didn't handle that very well. Lots of people got banned on reddit. Now people here mostly bitch about her comics being "low effort" and such, which mostly just reveals "I don't have a legit argument to hate this person so I'm going to pointlessly criticise her work instead."

As I've said in another comment, if some rando did the same scenario in ragemaker and posted it, everyone would be all over how relatable it is.

That said, it is possibly to simply not like the artstyle, or to not find the scenario relatable, or whatever criticism a person might have. Divorced of context, those criticisms sound valid. With context though, it becomes obvious that it is popular to persecute pizzacake.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)

persecute

Y'all have got to join us in reality.

Yes, there are some misogynists who hate pizzacake because she is a woman exercising her agency.

That is not the majority of pushback against her, just the most disgusting and vocal.

The vast majority of criticism of pizzacake is towards her lack of punchlines, constant strawmanning, the unbelievable sycophants who follow and worship her and have turned the relevant subreddit into basically /r/ChurchofPizzacake, and for pizzacake's pattern of poor behavior in interactions on reddit and elsewhere.

There is a lot of grossness surrounding the entire pizzacake topic, yes, that's undeniable. But to effectively chalk up all or most of the criticism as misogyny when a healthy majority of it sticks to the content of her comics or conduct in direct interactions rather than any extracurricular activities she may engage in, is just disingenuous as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I should clarify, I'm not claiming that everyone who is criticizing pizzacake is a misogynist. I am however saying that it is popular among misogynists to bully women artists and call it "criticism", thus, the presence of certain kinds of criticism indicates an increased likelihood that the "critic" is actually a misogynist, even if the criticisms at face value are legitimate.

I shouldn't need to have a law degree to write a comment in a comics forum.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ah, I remember having these arguments about whether Star Wars 7 should have let Rey be a woman. Uh, I mean, a Mary Sue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

The parallels are stark indeed. Divorced of context, it's perfectly reasonable to accept the argument that Rey is a poorly written character (because she is). Normal, well adjusted people were able to accept that the sequel trilogy sucks for numerous reasons, Rey being a poorly written character being one of them, and then move on. The problem with this criticism isn't the criticism itself, but rather the people who bang on and on and on about it reveal that they didn't have a problem with the writing, they had a problem with a female character having agency.

"Mind what people do, not just what they say, for deeds will betray a lie."

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For some reason PCC:s supporters never mention that she threatened to sue a subreddit for making fun of her comics. "One time she didn't handle that very well" that's putting it very mildly. PC is just toxic

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Is that what the narrative is now? I think the critics would have mentioned it last time, they were very thorough and even cited sources.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

All I know is she posts lewds to her Patreon and has lots of simps

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I fail to understand why posting a pair of tits is such a controversial thing to do. Maybe I'm too European to lose my marbles over some nipples.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I fail to understand why posting a pair of tits is such a controversial thing to do

Pizzacake makes a lot of feminist leaning comics which heavily criticize the patriarchy, male objectification of women and "creepy" men who comment sexual things towards women.

In light of that, a lot of people find it hypocritical that she'd sell pictures of herself online for dudes to jerk off to when that's the exact opposite audience her comics tries to appeal to.

When the leak first happened, she presented the narrative as though her consent was violated and she was being sexually harassed by having private nudes released. When people found out that she was selling the photos publicy for money, suddenly it became aparent we werent talking about sexual abuse we were talking about piracy. It got a lot of people irritated for having been mislead, and then they started asking why the photos were there in the first place.

If she knows that she is the target of harassment campaigns, a lot of people are confused as to why she would post her nudes in a public space and not expect them to leak.

Given the fact she is a public figure who regularly makes comics out of her children, regularly gets doxxed and is targetted by hate, you would expect her to be a bit smarter about what she puts online. She's been online for years but seeks to lack basic understanding of cause and effect online (or else she understands it all too well and plays the victim perfectly to promote herself by baiting outrage incredibly effectively).

The part of it that bothers me personally is that there are kids involved and there is a 100% chance that all the kids at her son's school know and have looked up these nudes and her son probably gets bullied about it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (8 children)

She has children so she has to be a paragon of virtue?

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[–] rc__buggy 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm here to tell you I just dislike the comic itself, I don't even know about any controversy. I see that shit, I close it and downvote. Nearly as bad as Family Circus.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't know what family circus is but yeah I don't really like her comics and would much rather discuss why instead of talking about the unrelated BS.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm unfamiliar, this is the first thing of hers I've encountered and I thought it fun enough to post here. Is there one of those Reasons people don't like her?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago (30 children)

There's a long story involving her threatening legal action against a subreddit over people parodying her work, overall she seems to be a very thin skinned individual that doesn't take criticism well.

Her work also just isn't very good, in my view. Her art style is incredibly bland, and her positions on various topics are just the biggest "no shit" moments you can imagine.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, if the biggest critiques of an internet celeb was that they were thin-skinned and their takes aren't very spicy then I take that as a win in today's environment. Hell even being "sort of an asshole" is pretty good by today's standards.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

It could be worse, but then again, people wouldn't be posting her work all the time if she'd done something truly awful.

Instead she makes bland dross that confirms people's opinions, and people think she's actually creative as a result.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Yeah. I recommend a drink.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Maybe because the comics rarely have any substance to talk about. Besides, I don't want to see or support someone's work when they threaten people with litigation for making fun of and criticizing their comics

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That's not true, we also insult her half assed art style and middle of the road takes.

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