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This is a very low-information announcement here but if this is taken to the extreme, it means that DuckDuckGo, Qwant, and many other so-called "alternative" search engines are going to either have to look for a new provider of results, or die.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Shiiit, I really don't want to go back to Google and all their sponsored/AI/tracking bullshit. Any other privacy-focused search engines out there that don't rely on this?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

American company though. Not supporting that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm far too used to getting my search for free to pay for it. I'll fuckin' use chatgpt before I pay a subscription fee for that shit, even if it is a substantially better option.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's what I said before I used it, you can try it free for 30 days

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I looked at it briefly, the only free option I saw was 100 free searches, which will not last your average user anywhere near 30 days. Shit that might not last me 3 days depending on what I'm doing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you overestimate the average user

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

3 searches a day? Most people probably clear that just satisfying idle curiosity while sitting on the damned toilet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Answers still Kagi. You get use of the basic tiers for all the big ai services.

You ever wanted to blacklist Quora from search results? You can do that too.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not unless you have some way to get me a free lifetime membership, cause I've already made it pretty clear I'm not paying for it, and it wouldn't even let me use it without making an account when I checked it out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah buddy, i have answers i don't like too. Sucks sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's less that I'm unhappy with the answer and more that I'm confused about why you would give an answer that I've already said I won't use. But if screaming into the void is your jam then you do you.

[–] WhyJiffie 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Shiiit, I really don't want to go back to Google and all their sponsored/AI/tracking bullshit.

I can tell you with confidence that I simply just won't.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What's the alternative? I guess you can use chatgpt or whatever as a sort of search engine? shrug

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

people who use LLMs as search engine make me go 😨

my colleagues are doing it too, and I just want to yell at them that LLMs have no idea about reality, they will confidently tell you to eat glue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I admit I haven't tried it myself, but I've heard it's a thing, apparently? shrug But I've noticed in my other uses that they're a lot better about citing sources for their claims now, so I guess you could just go 'Hey what's the capital of Vermont?', ignore its answer, then click on the source link below it, and voila: search engine?

My point was more: is this just the way things are going to go, we're going to get funneled into using AI for everything whether we want to or not?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you tell the o3 reasoning model to just search the web and give you the top results instead of answering your query it can actually be really useful for obscure queries. I was able to find specific spec sheets for my model of monitor when a google search would only produce the specs for basically any other model the manufacturer made. Even with the model number in quotes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

At the end of the day, it’s still an agent searching the web like a person, and its results are only good if search is decent.

[–] WhyJiffie 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

searx, because it queries multiple engines that are accessible, and perhaps google frontends (whoogle, libre y, and that new mullvad thing).

but for the past years I was exclusively using duckduckgo and it would be very said if it would go away :( I started recommending it to others too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I've been using duckduckgo for a few years now and loving it, I really hope it doesn't go away. Still waiting to hear from those guys about how this affects them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Mullvad Leta is at least google minus the tracking.