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Just wanted to know what you guys consider to be better when torrenting. Is it I2P network or a VPN like Mullvad, Proton or IVPN?

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[–] LambdaRX 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

VPN is better for torrents right now (clearnet torrents and speed), but I2P is free, decentralized and anonymous by design. I2P has small torrent selection, and small speed (or maybe my firewall was slowing me down), but it gets better, more people use it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Since I care more about anonymity I think I would rather sacrifice speed and use I2p even on clearnet.

[–] pastermil 13 points 1 week ago

The thing is, it's hard to get to clearnet from i2p

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Torrenting on Tor actually hurts the network. Compare that to I2P where it makes the network better. I2P is designed with torrenting in mind.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Got a source for that? Torrenting "hurts" tor 'cos it uses up bandwidth that could be used for useful stuff like comms from journalists, dissidents, etc.

But IIRC tor was designed with clearnet in mind whereas I2P is "self-centered".

Do you mean accessing I2P implies using an I2IP router to begin with?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It not only hurts tor because it usage up bandwith but in other ways as well. Torrenting makes many peer to peer connections which hurts tor in multiple ways. I suggest reading the docs of tor to better understand how and why this is.

I dont understand your question about I2P. You need some form of I2P router to use I2P in anyway.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the I2P is better designed for torrenting plus Tor is just way too slow especially for bigger files simce most people only use tor but don't run their own relays.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which is sort of obvious because Tor discourages using ADSL etc. for relays. The question is if I2P will be doing better.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean it's not ideal but if you don't mind the extra electricity, have some old laptop or raspberry pi you can use to run relay or bridgde and limit your bandwidth than I don't see why you shouldn't.

Also I2P is really faster than tor since you contribute to the network just by using it unlike tor. Although I'm not sure how many users this network has nowadays :/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don’t see why you shouldn’t.

You shouldn't because sysadmins everywhere block you from their networks, even if you're just a relay.
Been hosting a relay for 5 years and it's been a thorn in my side the whole time but I refuse to stop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ok forgot to mention you gotta verify if it's okay with your ISP first.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not your ISP that blocks you and your ISP doesn't care. All your ISP sees is encrypted data going in and out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Nah I get what you said earlier but what I'm saying is that you should also inform you ISP. And that they don't care isn't necessarily true for every ISP especially if they may get a letter about it.

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