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It prob is a "some culture warrior/bodybuilder misread a piece of research and it turned into a culture war conspiracy" thing. Like soy. (My silly nickname predates the culture war stuff by several decades, it comes from Shadowrun).
E: yes looked it up, comes via RFK of course and is anti seed oils thing. https://www.diningandcooking.com/1742624/america-stopped-cooking-with-tallow-for-a-reason/ and the anti seeds oil thing is an idea that has been spreading through the (far) right blogosphere for a decade or more (that is when I heard of it, so prob existed before that).
Our friends of the pod at lw also joined in https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/DHkkL2GxhxoceLzua/thoughts-on-seed-oil (but it concludes the seed oil theory is full of shit, points for LW there, well done (dont read the comments, there is roundup in the seed oils)).
Well, LW is only being no more wrong than Andrew Tate there, so they don't deserve too many points.
And Yud himself went full-blown anti-seed-oil.
Yes the score is still negative even of they had one win. Note how the glyposate asspull still got 50 upvotes. (And how one person went 'wow i have the same' in reaction to that to then just go 'it was gluten'. Enormous levels of contrarian so open minded their brains now have worms stuff. And amazing that all of this started just because Yud thought others were not unbiassed enough to properly understand his argument about training agi safely. Talk about 'I realized my initial goals were impossible so I made secondary goals which were also impossible so I'm going to become a weird (far) right winger scope drift. See also Musk. Whos plans for Mars were replaced with AI robots, and now is starting a company townwith all the women he has kids with (see also 'the implication'). (Yeah I made up that his women compound and company town are in the same place, but you get my point I hope).
Interesting how they fail in similar ways, Musk ignores the community notes and spouts his bs, vs Yud and ignoring the post (i assume 2023 yud vs 2024 lw) and already going anti meta study (??) in the tweet. Womens compound vs math pets. Weird science fiction bs vs weird science fiction ba. Has group of haters he claims are actually a small (undead) Jewish cabal who are behind all his hate vs Has group of haters who all are (goth) David Gerard.
painting goth David Gerard as their archenemy is pretty rich coming from a group that already owned two castles
That part was a bit tongue in cheek. scott ssc did claim he was being brigaded by sneerclubbers once while he was in a debate with one of the sc mods (that is where the 'one man brigade' flair came from). They tend to dramatize just how big and mean we are. Other scott had one regular self proclaimed sneerclubber and several neonazis in his comment section, and the former seemed to bother him the most for example (I never reacted on his blog after I realized how bad the existence of sc was for his mental health (he has long ago stopped mentioning us and has since dropped of my and most peoples here radar however which is prob for the best esp as in the lw space he isnt that important)).