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The Trump administration’s support for these claims, while stopping other new refugee arrivals, has inflamed uncomfortable conversations about how far racial reconciliation still has to go, three decades after the end of white minority rule.

The US president’s offer was a “godsend”, said Kyle, now a salesman working remotely for an overseas company: “I’ve got white children, they’re at the bottom of the hiring list here. So, there is no future for them. And the sad thing is they don’t even know what apartheid is.”

White Afrikaner governments racially segregated every aspect of life from relationships to where people were allowed to live during apartheid, repressing South Africa’s Black majority while keeping the white minority safe and much better off.

South Africa remains deeply unequal, more than 30 years since the system ended. The black South African unemployment rate is 46.1%, for example, compared with 9.2% for white people.

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[–] otp 141 points 4 days ago (13 children)

I’ve got white children, they’re at the bottom of the hiring list here. So, there is no future for them. And the sad thing is they don’t even know what apartheid is.

If your children are old enough to work, and they don't even know about your country's most pressing issue that only ended like 30 years ago, then no wonder they're at the bottom of the hiring list.

They're ignorant fucks! Lol

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I mean, that's probably not what they're implying.

I read that as "when my kids who have never experienced the reality of apartheid grow up, they will be discriminated against because they are white"

The article is FULL of little bits like that to make them sound like reasonable people just trying to live. Thankfully the article also provides contrary evidence: 9.2% unemployment rate.

Rich afrikaners who are upset apartheid is gone and they now have to be treated like normal people bitching about how they now have to actually earn jobs instead of being handed one for being white, and they still have the majority of jobs.

[–] otp 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

imo, you read that with a positive interpretation.

If they were saying that, they should've said that their kids "never experienced it" or "never participated in it" or "didn't live through it".

But instead, they said their kids "don't know what apartheid is".

If they misspoke, fine. But I don't know with certainty that they meant what you said. I think they might've meant what they said.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if an American conservative said "My kids are bottom of the college acceptance lists due to affirmative action; it's bullshit, they don't even know what slavery is," what age would you infer that their children are?

[–] otp 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Where are you going with this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do you think it's realistic and reasonable that college aged work seeking kids living in America (or South Africa) just haven't been exposed to the topic is slavery (or apartheid)?

They know what it is, historically.

[–] otp 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yes.

Japan doesn't tend to teach its children about the atrocities that Japan committed in the past century.

China is in a similar boat.

Depending on the province, school board, and even teacher, Canada doesn't always do a good job of teaching its children about the residential schools and related atrocities committed against the indigenous peoples of the land.

So yeah. I think it's possible that people old enough to work and be looking for jobs (which can be as young as 14 where I live) are ignorant to the atrocities their countries committed.

The USA is actually surprisingly halfway decent at teaching kids about the atrocities committed against Black people, from my perspective. There is still a long way to go, but at least kids grow up knowing that many Americans owned slaves and that it's wrong to own slaves. Some regions less-so than others, but still, lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 50 minutes ago

There's a big difference between understanding and relating to the victims of atrocities, and simply not knowing about historic events.

They aren't ignorant, you are whitewashing them and stripping them of agency. They know about the racist history that they benefit from greatly! The education system in South Africa covers the rise, implementation, and fall of apartheid in significant detail.

What are you arguing about? It could have taken you less time to look up how seriously apartheid is taken in South Africa instead of listing a bunch of irrelevant countries that don't take seriously irrelevant crimes, what are you doing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

just trying to help you understand our reading of the guy's remark.

[–] otp 1 points 22 hours ago

I'd infer that the children are of the age where they'd be applying to college in your scenario.

If they're not, then whoever said that isn't speaking from experience, but from imagination.

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