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WTF is this? people working 80-110 hours? 80h being the norm? I know in some poor/3rd world countries this is happening unfortunately, but in USA? WTF?
In the US it's almost possible for 1 person to fully support themselves working 2 entry-level jobs at 40hours a week each, at least in places with lower costs of living. People act like doing full time college while working a full time job is normal and if you can't make it work you're a loser. A good portion of people get "really good" jobs where it's possible to sustain yourself on 1 salary but it's almost harder to get those jobs than it is to win the lottery and even harder to KEEP them. Many of them end up being a 70+hour a week gig anyway and once the bosses start demanding even more from you it's all over. I have 2 degrees even. Corporations have destroyed our society.
USA has been a third world craphole for most of the population since inception.
I used to be an automotive controls engineer. 100hr work weeks were not unusual onsite, the norm was 80hrs. And you can end up onsite for anywhere from 2-10 months depending on the job. The 100hr weeks were usually only for a few weeks when production starts up again. But it’s the whole culture, there is a lot of pressure from the customer to get production back up. And most of the industry veterans I worked with loved bragging about the 36hr days they had worked in the past to “get the job done”. It’s like a cult, they get into the mindset of “well I did it so everyone else has to too”.
Yeah like I'm sure the quality of the work didn't suffer when people were literally delirious from sleep deprivation
Sometimes it didn’t even make sense. I had a project Engineer (job lead) stay overnight with the night shift mechanics who were fixing a weld on our VDL (elevator for car bodies). He said that it was so he could make sure they lined it up correctly and test it. He could have done that when we came in the morning, there was a day shift mechanical crew if we had any issues.
Like how is that physically done? I couldn't physically do it.
My boss and supervisor once had to do a 36 or so hour day, cause of a fire (I don’t know the details.). I’ve made it very clear I won’t be doing this.
My first job out of college was about 130hr/week. It didn't start that way but I was young, inspired by the project, and didn't know how to say no. The team was small and our lead was batshit so more work kept adding up. I was basically working all waking hours 7 days a week and the sporadic times I did get an hour or two to sleep I was on call. I started having 20 hour work days in the last couple weeks. I was there a total of about two years (the first year was a lot but more like 60hr weeks so doable), my burnout lasted for two years, the resulting alcohol abuse took more like 6 years to kick. Barely even got paid. I've learned a lot since then
I can barely manage 40 hours.
I pulled an 11 hour workday recently between my main job and my side-gig. With my current insane commute I spent waking to going to sleep either working or commuting. The next day I crashed hard after work and went to bed with a massive migraine immediately after returning home from my full time job. My limit is clearly ~10 hours in a day even with a breaks peppered in
The better paid a job is the more likely it is to demand that sort of "commitment". And these people really like their money. They say to themselves "20 years of this, then I'll travel the world". Looks like it didn't work out for this guy.
This is common in investment banking.