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Oh damn, this is huge. He's officially admitting to being a Transphobic Bigot. Literally.
What else in this ballpark would he like to admit to while he's at it? Maybe he's a Homophobe too? ...What's his stance on black people?
Also, are transgender men, men? And if so, why is it one rule for women and another for men? Is he sexist too?
On the basis of his admission of being a Bigot I would argue he is unfit to be leader of the Labour Party. I recall a Labour Prime Minister not too long ago getting angry at someone for being a Bigot... how times have changed...
This is not huge. He is literally saying what the law says, which is exactly what you expect a prime minister to do. This isn't transphobia. This isn't bigotry. Literally.
You're blowing this completely out of proportion, and also throwing in a load of other shit that he never said anything about.
Damn, if only the PM had the power to get the law changed.
This is transphobia, seriously listen to him weasel out of it. He was asked if trans woman were women in general, not specifically for the purposes of the Equalities Act.
'As a woman', a trans woman is a woman, different from a cis woman sure, but still a woman. This statement is fairly absurd if you substitute trans with another adjective, like is a blonde woman different from a woman?
The prejudice is denying the legitimacy of trans women as women. 'Adult human female' is a dog whistle for 'not trans', so by asserting that a woman is 'an adult female' he's saying trans women aren't women (and that trans men aren't men).
I didn't actually, I wrote that to probe out what you actually meant because I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.
And trans/cis is a descriptions of whether a woman was assigned female at birth or not. Woman is not synonymous with cis woman.
You give them different names, I'm using adjectives because the distinction matters in this context.
It really isn't. When you meet someone irl, you brain doesn't decide if it thinks they are a man or woman based on their chromosomes or some bioessentialist bs, it does it based of social ques because man/woman are social categories.
But also:
I'll probably fuck my terminology up here, forgive me, I try. Questions I have:
Are there a lot of people who look at other people's genitals in public toilets?
Can these people be arrested because I think they might be perverts and I don't want them looking at my kids?
Are people going to have to start showing their genitals to security guards?
Has someone given security guards the right to demand to see people's genitals?
How the fuck does that even work when someone's had gender reassignment surgery?
Presumably trans men must now use the women's toilets?
Does someone who's had gender reassignment surgery need to bring their full medical history with them in order to prove they're using the "correct" toilet?
Not aimed particularly at you flamingos - just questions that are coming to mind reading this thread.
Seems to me this would be a lot simpler if people would just stop looking at other people's genitals in toilets uninvited.
A trans woman, and a cis woman are both subtypes of women. One used to be physically male, the other didn't. Both are women and should be afforded the same treatment under law unless actually there's actually reasonable issues created by that.