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That is never the answer. If your business isn't retaining people because the party culture isn't party enough...you've got way bigger problems...and it's probably leadership.
As I get older I begin to realize that people love to work.
However people hate being treated like shit.
Treating people like shit or building an environment that supports shitty behavior poisons the well and will absolutely make people leave, even for a pay cut.
If you just respect people and properly value them and their contributions to your organization, you'll never have trouble keeping them.
A ping pong table is cheaper and less effort.
So, a fruit basket?
Think bigger, and rounder, and flatter, and then covered in cheese and maybe pepperoni. But no mushrooms, Dolores in accounting will pretend to vomit.
Hawaiian pizza, I gotchu fam
Joke's on you, I'm into that shit.
I wouldn't say party culture - it is what you make of it! You're normally at work for a significant portion of your day. Something like a table tennis table can help to break up the day and is just a bit of fun. For example, we had a table tennis tournament at work, which people got really into - it was fun and people bonded over it. I'd take that over working somewhere where you don't even know your colleagues.
This was at a tech company where culture was a big part of why almost everyone worked there. Definitely wasn't a party culture, but it was collaborative, where people worked closely together. There was never an expectation to work outside of working hours, or to do anything social - it was purely optional.
Obviously pay is a big factor, but it isn't everything. I'm lucky enough to be in a sector where I can afford to get paid less and have a better work (definitely not party!) culture and work-life balance.
I shrug...I like WFH...it's me vs the machine and that's that. I hated the forced corporate fun when I was still in that environment. It's "collaborative"...no...no it's not.
Sure...having Little John spin the company party was a neat story...getting paid 50k more and working in quiet peace is a better one.
Company parties are such a dumb waste of time. "Boss says, have fun!"
No thanks.
Totally understand - each to their own! And we agree on forced fun!
I WFH since COVID, and I definitely wouldn't go back to the office (we go in once every two months which everyone really enjoys). Personally, I'd swap the 50k for working in an environment that I enjoy, and that for me means working closely and collaboratively with my teammates, who I get along with. Everyone is different though, so what I want from a job is probably other people's idea of hell.
Like leadership partying too much
Nah. That's too black and white