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I've been rocking a de-googled but aging CAT S22 Flip since last August (low-end android smartphone in a flip phone form factor). Absolutely love it but sad there is no clear successor when I have to eventually replace it. It's basically the same concept as this phone.
Sadly, this is not a "new" model. He bought it used on eBay, it's got similar specs to my S22, and only runs Android 12. However, that screen is quite nice and would be a huge upgrade from the S22. The unfortunate conclusion is that there is still no clear successor for my S22 unless I want a slightly/barely less out of date phone and go with this one.
I was rocking an S22 for a while too and almost bought one of these. I have up on the S22 because of a few restrictions related to android versions.
Now I'm using the razr 2024 and LET ME TELL YOU. It's so good. It's a vertical flip phone but it has a square screen on the exterior. Now let me tell you my secret. I never open the phone. I never need to. Almost. But it makes the phone a mega-compact. It's not perfect but it's the closest thing to a "small smartphone" that I've been able to achieve and better for me than something like the S22. I highly recommend trying it out. It's also very cheap.
Don't get the fancy version, just the standard razr 2024.
I'd considered the Razr but was uncertain on the durability of it. Reviews were about 50/50 last I read.
That's awesome you mentioned using it closed most of the time. I'm tired of the "tall, skinny rectangle" form factor (and not being able to use it one-handed despite having not-small hands lol). Since smaller phones seem to be extinct, it's cool there's a middle ground in being able to use it that way.
I do need to make sure I can find one that's bootloader unlockable. Kind of a hard requirement for me and necessary to de-google it to my satisfaction. It's not listed as supported by Lineage, but I'll browse XDA and see what they've been able to do with it.
Thanks!
Ah I haven't tried unlocking the bootloader so I can't help you there. I hope it's possible because this is such a good phone for small phone lovers.
I have owned a razr 40 for well over a year with no issues. I take pretty good care of my phones and have never dropped it, though. The smaller flip folding phones seem to be a lot more durable than their larger siblings, I guess because the hinge and fold is a lot smaller.
I wouldn't bother with flip smartphones if running degoogled Android is something you're unwilling to compromise on. They don't have the user base to attract custom ROM developers and are unlikely to receive that kind of attention unless Google releases a Pixel Flip or something. You need to decide whether the software or hardware is more important - I chose the hardware which meant giving up on degoogled Android for now.
Yeah, then I guess I'll need to keep looking. The hardware can be great, but not when I can't do what I want with it. Thanks for the insight.
XDA does show some people are able to bootloader unlock and root (which is basically all I need), so I may keep tabs on it and go from there.
If you're capable of building LineageOS or something for it then don't let me stop you! I just assumed that you, like most users including myself, would be relying on someone else doing that bit for you and I just don't think that's going to happen any time soon.