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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Please explain. How is FOSS not also freeware?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeware

Unlike with free and open-source software, which are also often distributed free of charge, the source code for freeware is typically not made available.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unlike with free and open-source software, which are also often distributed free of charge, the source code for freeware is typically not made available.

It clearly says "typically", which includes the software that does open source the code.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Interesting. I interpreted this definition more like an oval vs. circle distinction. The vast majority of ovals aren’t circles, but circles are a subset of ovals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Making me realize Spongebob isn't even square.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They aren't though. They're rectangular at the top and then have cylinders coming out the bottom. I think the heels of his shoes might be square on the bottom.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Spongebob Prismaticocylindricalpants doesn't have the same ring to it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Interesting, didn't know that. Ironically, I've unintentionally followed this definition anyway because I think open-source is so incredible that I always describe FOSS as specifically FOSS, not "just" freeware.

In fact, I've pivoted so strongly to FOSS as of late that I haven't even said the word "freeware" in... years... dang...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think we’re naturally a bit suspicious of freeware as “misleading” because so many old software used to be just vectors to install malware (mostly spam) alongside it. At least for me, I only trust it either if it is open source or it has a sustainable business model.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

yea, "freeware" has that suspicious connotation to me as well. The mark of an era

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Different senses of "free." "Free software" refers to freedom, not price. "Freeware" refers to price, not freedom.

"Freeware" typically has the connotation of being proprietary but it doesn't have to be. Most people call actual free software "free software," "FOSS," or "open source." I think this is a side effect of proprietary being the assumed default.

There is a misunderstanding that "FOSS" means it is freeware and open source. You can see that misunderstanding even in this thread.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

You pay for it by interfering in corporate profits and therefore innovation! Linux stole from Microsoft! And because they did we now have Windows 11.

I hope I don't need a slash s?