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How do you host your DNS sinkhole/resolver? (self.selfhosted)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by ohshit604 to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Currently have nice long docker compose file that hosts my PiHole V6 container (along with a bunch of other containers) however, reason i ask this question is because whenever I go to pull an updated image and recreate the container I experience about 20 minutes of no DNS resolution which to my knowledge is due to the NTP clock being out of sync.

What’s the best way to host a DNS sinkhole/resolver that can mitigate this issue?

Was thinking of utilizing Proxmox & LXC but I suspect I’ll get the same experience.

~~Update: Turns out PiHole doesn’t support two instances, I got both of them on separate devices also set the 2nd DNS server in my routers WAN & LAN DNS settings which did in fact split DNS between both instances however, I lost access to my routers web-ui, my Traefik instance & reverse proxies died and I lost all internet access.~~

~~So, don’t do what I did.~~

Update 2: So everything I said in my first update let’s disregard that, turns out I had my router forcing all DNS to PiHole server 1 which caused my issues mentioned above.

Two servers appears to work!

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[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is overkill.

I have a dedicated raspberry pi for pihole, then two VMs running PowerDNS in Master/Slave mode. The PDNS servers use the Pihole as their primary recursive lookup, followed by some other Internet privacy DNS server that I can't recall right now.

If I need to do maintenance on the pihole, power DNS can fall back to the internet DNS server. If I need to do updates on the PowerDNS cluster, I can do it one at a time to reduce the outage window.

EDIT: I should have phrased the first sentence: "My setup is overkill" rather than "This is overkill" - the Op is asking a very valid question and the passive phrasing of my post's first sentence could be taken multiple ways.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When it comes to a “secondary”DNS... [there is nothing like a primary and secondary DNS server. These indications are quite misleading but many systems adopted it this way. Pihole only list the DNS servers as primary and secondary, because this is what the providers write on their pages. The bad phrasing is supported especially by how Windows handles it.](https://discourse.pi-hole.net/t/primary-vs-secondary-dns/1536/2)

[Most operating systems implement DNS servers as alternatives, not as fallbacks, i.e. they will query any of both servers from time to time, so it is quite likely that you will loose your Pi-hole filtering capabilities (at least partially) [if you specify a secondary DNS server on your network].](https://discourse.pi-hole.net/t/secondary-dns-server-for-dhcp/1874)

The **ONLY** DNS server you should have set on your network is a/the PiHole(s).

[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 2 points 3 days ago

Sorry, I wasn't clear - I use PowerDNS so that I can more easily deploy services that can be resolved by my internal networks (deployed via Kubernetes or Terraform). In my case, the secondary PowerDNS server does regular zone transfers from the primary in order to ensure it has a copy of all A, PTR, CNAME, etc records.

But PowerDNS (and all DNS servers really), can either be authoritative resolvers or recursors. In my case, the PDNS servers are authoritative for my homelab zone/domain and they perform recursive lookups (with caching) for non-authoritative domains like google.com, infosec.pub, etc. By pointing my PDNS servers to PiHole for recursive lookups, I ensure that I have ad blocking while still allowing for my automation to handle the homelab records.